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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne View Post
    Thanks Chops. I've been flavour of the month for some years though by a select few.

    I find those that like to dump on others freely usually fit the following description - fat, frumpy and with nothing meaningful to do in their life. Being the 'bullies' on an internet forum is their way of feeling that they are important.

    I have arguments and debates on forums and that is where it ends. The vindictiveness shown by some though is apalling.

    That is just the bestest desciption !!
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    Tkay what post? I didn't see it ?
    I miss all the hoo haa

    I know that one or two of Mals posts seemed very hostile and I said so in one ofthe threads.They were both having a bit of hostility really. I suggested they stay out of each others threads.

    I think this is where Mal came unstuck for want of a better word?
    Yes he shouldn't of had a dig at Myf but remember,as Anne said,some people with much knowledge to share really have no experience in sharing that knowledge over an internet forum.
    It often makes them appear arrogant,blunt and short tempered.
    Thing is ,the thing they are usualy short tempered over is their own failure of getting the information across in a non threatening way.

    I'm certainly not condoning rude behaviour , rather just trying to help you see that maybe its not laways so black and white
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    Hey Guys, Looks like i've missed all the action
    Better go back and start reading...

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    wow, what have i missed???

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    Hmm gotta love the internet, or instant written communication.

    For what it's worth - I liked our spider friend and felt s/he? had much useful knowledge and might eventually share if we asked nicely or something.

    The trouble with written stuff is that sarcasm and joking tone do not translate and posts tend to be taken literally when they were not intended that way. This tends to result in a less than happy response and it all goes rapidly down hill from there.

    And then I suspect many people who get along well with dogs tend to be a little bit rules driven. So what they learn as "the Right Way" to do something tends to become set in concrete and vigorously defended or anything perceived as "the Wrong Way" vigorously attacked. Myself - one of the "Right Ways" I learned early was "question everything" - which does drive some people nuts. Its not that I think something or someone is wrong - I'm just looking for the why of it if I can't see it straight away. Of course the worst thing you can do to someone else is question something that they firmly believe in - that has happens to be founded in delusion. Most of us have a whole collection of rules/explanations about the way the world is that also happen to be completely wrong - even if they are plausible.

    I have to be fairly careful in internet forums not to come across as a know it all with a superiority complex. Sometimes I can't help it though, and a grammar policeman or similar escapes despite my best efforts to suppress it.

    So the other thing you need with an internet forum is a fairly thick skin for ignoring the ones that don't know how to play nice. And the bigger the forum - the more of these there are.

    And that is when the "ignore" function is so helpful. If there is someone on the forum whose posts always drive you nuts for whatever reason - you can put them on ignore (via "User CP" link at top left) and you won't see their posts unless someone else happens to quote them.

    I'm still hoping that the dog reading will be revealed in context or at least a link to a website or a book recommendation...

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    That's a pity Malinois as I'd have liked to hear more about your beautiful dogs...the errr...spiders...and snakes.
    The more people I meet, the more I like my dogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    Hmm gotta love the internet, or instant written communication.

    For what it's worth - I liked our spider friend and felt s/he? had much useful knowledge and might eventually share if we asked nicely or something.

    The trouble with written stuff is that sarcasm and joking tone do not translate and posts tend to be taken literally when they were not intended that way. This tends to result in a less than happy response and it all goes rapidly down hill from there.

    And then I suspect many people who get along well with dogs tend to be a little bit rules driven. So what they learn as "the Right Way" to do something tends to become set in concrete and vigorously defended or anything perceived as "the Wrong Way" vigorously attacked. Myself - one of the "Right Ways" I learned early was "question everything" - which does drive some people nuts. Its not that I think something or someone is wrong - I'm just looking for the why of it if I can't see it straight away. Of course the worst thing you can do to someone else is question something that they firmly believe in - that has happens to be founded in delusion. Most of us have a whole collection of rules/explanations about the way the world is that also happen to be completely wrong - even if they are plausible.

    I have to be fairly careful in internet forums not to come across as a know it all with a superiority complex. Sometimes I can't help it though, and a grammar policeman or similar escapes despite my best efforts to suppress it.

    So the other thing you need with an internet forum is a fairly thick skin for ignoring the ones that don't know how to play nice. And the bigger the forum - the more of these there are.

    And that is when the "ignore" function is so helpful. If there is someone on the forum whose posts always drive you nuts for whatever reason - you can put them on ignore (via "User CP" link at top left) and you won't see their posts unless someone else happens to quote them.

    I'm still hoping that the dog reading will be revealed in context or at least a link to a website or a book recommendation...
    Great post!! You obviously have an understanding of human behaviour.
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    Hi Anne

    I wouldn't say I have a good understanding of human behaviour. Some things people do are completely bewildering to me. Like - why is Maccas still in business? I like their clean toilets but I won't eat their food. And why do soap operas do so well - I have no idea. And I have a gift - as I mentioned - for saying just the wrong thing at the right time to cause maximum impact and have no idea I said anything upsetting... and a lot of people will just stalk off in a huff that I don't notice and do all they can to make my life hard and I will have no idea why until someone else tells me. Everyone does this occasionally but some of us do it more frequently.

    I have studied a fair bit of psychology and other methods of understanding human behaviour, but still don't get it right. I suspect a lot of psychiatrists and psychologists go into the field because most human behaviour puzzles them - their understanding is not intuitive, it has to be studied and learned from professors and books, and then there are still huge gaps in the knowledge - because the source of learning were also fairly uninformed.

    One of my favourite books on the subject - very easy to read with very simple experiments with unexpected results is a book called "predictably irrational" by Dan Ariely.

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    Im happy he's gone.
    You dont see how I can stick up for a breed i've never owned? Just go away already!
    This poster wasn't making any contribution, oh, unless 'learn to read your dog' is valid from this amazing dog trainer(which personally, I believe is a load of BS)

    Check out the 'snow dog' thread guys, thats where he starts getting agro over nothing.

    Soooo immature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    Hmm gotta love the internet, or instant written communication.

    For what it's worth - I liked our spider friend and felt s/he? had much useful knowledge and might eventually share if we asked nicely or something.

    The trouble with written stuff is that sarcasm and joking tone do not translate and posts tend to be taken literally when they were not intended that way. This tends to result in a less than happy response and it all goes rapidly down hill from there.

    And then I suspect many people who get along well with dogs tend to be a little bit rules driven. So what they learn as "the Right Way" to do something tends to become set in concrete and vigorously defended or anything perceived as "the Wrong Way" vigorously attacked. Myself - one of the "Right Ways" I learned early was "question everything" - which does drive some people nuts. Its not that I think something or someone is wrong - I'm just looking for the why of it if I can't see it straight away. Of course the worst thing you can do to someone else is question something that they firmly believe in - that has happens to be founded in delusion. Most of us have a whole collection of rules/explanations about the way the world is that also happen to be completely wrong - even if they are plausible.

    I have to be fairly careful in internet forums not to come across as a know it all with a superiority complex. Sometimes I can't help it though, and a grammar policeman or similar escapes despite my best efforts to suppress it.

    So the other thing you need with an internet forum is a fairly thick skin for ignoring the ones that don't know how to play nice. And the bigger the forum - the more of these there are.

    And that is when the "ignore" function is so helpful. If there is someone on the forum whose posts always drive you nuts for whatever reason - you can put them on ignore (via "User CP" link at top left) and you won't see their posts unless someone else happens to quote them.

    I'm still hoping that the dog reading will be revealed in context or at least a link to a website or a book recommendation...
    I agree with Hyacinth!
    Stick around M,

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