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    Yay another vegetarian, I don't eat any meat at all but will have dairy products.
    O.h has to watch his weight all the time but has found it's easier to have a small treat every day, it helps to stop him falling off the wagon.
    M.I.L has the opposite problem, she had 2/3 rds of her stomcah removed because of cancer 15 years ago and any weight gain for her is a good thing as she is so thin. She's recovering from a gastric bug that nearly killed her earlier this year, went down to 28 kg. She's now up to 33 kg.

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    Hi Bordeaux

    When I buggered my knee and had two surgeries to fix it (would have been quicker if I'd just got the reconstruction the first time round - live and learn), I gained lots of weight because I couldn't exercise as much as I used to. I used to play and umpire a lot of hockey and I couldn't. And while I did cut back on food and go walking - it wasn't enough to keep the weight off. I went from a loose size 12 to a loose size 16 and got told by my now ex GP that I was "overweight" (one miserable kg to stuff a BMI). And you think being told by somebody in a night club is bad.

    My main way of reducing weight is to increase exercise and decrease food but still eat the same food. What occy said.

    Bordeaux - is not the kind of red wine you like? Wine and other alcohol is essentially calories - so if you drink less like one glass instead of two - you will reduce your daily calorie count a little. Try alternating water with your softdrink/wine when you're out. If you already do this - go two glasses water to each glass of calories.

    Quiet cafe - this is going to be the hardest thing - you need to find food that has slightly less calories than what you'd normally snack on and make it easy to snack on. Carrot sticks are great - negative calories, but even carrot sticks with a piece of cheese has less calories than a muffin.

    If you must have a muffin - try having a glass of water first, and cutting the muffin up into quarters or smaller (depending on its size) and dragging out the time you take to eat it.

    There was a jamie oliver show about healthy eating - there was one chubby girl there who was doing everything right except her daily calorie intake was too much by the amount of calories in one of those very small bag of crisps that come in the multipacks. If she cut that out and continued all else the same - she'd stay about the same as she was, if she continued eating it - she'd keep getting bigger - a little bit every day. So that's how you need to cut back - a little bit less than now, every day.

    As for the "no carbs" this kind of thing drives me nuts. Olive oil is a carbohydrate. As is a lettuce leaf. Your list looks like no complex starchy carbs to me. Ie the bread, pasta - flour based things. Fruit and veg are still carbs and potato is the same as bread in terms of the filling starch value.

    You do need to eat some of this stuff. Eating less might be good but eating none is bad. In my humble non-professional-in-the-nutrition-field opinion. Instead of ditching the complex carbs altogther you might try subsituting with healthier versions. Eg wholemeal pasta instead of white pasta, same with bread - multigrain or wholemeal and if you get a breadmaker and make your own - it has better ingredients than the sugar filled supermarket brands (check the ingredient list and the energy list). Go for the dark rye bread - fills you up more for less calories. And brown rice instead of white rice - though personally while I like wholemeal flour based stuff, I'm not overly fond of brown rice then again this would mean I'd eat less.

    The wholegrain/wholemeal stuff will fill you up more and also carry more through your gut and this helps you ditch unneeded calories too. Oh and sweet potato instead of the traditional potato - though it is possible to get too much (look at the Maori people, though I put this down to the genetics required to survive a very long boat ride without enough food more than the sweet potato).

    Also protein fills you up. So if you have slightly less potato with the meat and three veg - have slightly more meat. So you feel fuller. And wait 20 minutes before having second helpings because if your appetite is working properly - that's how long it takes to turn off after you've eaten. If you are always hungry - if you are doing a huge amount of exercise then consider hunger a side effect of that and you know the kilos are falling off. Otherwise - it could be some sort of health issue - diabetes and thyriod problems will break the "I am full" switch.

    And when I got my puppy dog - 5kg disapeared in the first month... And now I'm walking in the order of 2 hours a day - much more effective (for my appetite) than 30 minutes. But if 30 minutes a day is more than you're doing now - it will help.

    The number of calories/Kilojoules in low fat milk is almost the same as in full cream. A dairy farmer pointed this out to me - she said that the process of making milk low fat - ups the sugar content so you just swap one form of energy (fat) for another (sugar). And the body is more likely to store the sugar than the fat. So I quite happily get which ever milk has the best use by date whether it's low fat or full cream and I try to get a local dairy too, not one of the big brands (including supermarket house brands) because I hope the locals look after their farmers and cows better.

    And lastly - pay more attention to how your clothes fit or the tape measure than the scales - because muscle weighs more than fat and if you up your exercise you will lose cm and gain muscle which the tape measure will show but the scales will not.

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    Just a little update.

    I've gotten an eating plan off a friend of a friend who is also a PT. It's much more sencible (sp) than the one I had, it lists good carbs, fats and protine I should eat.
    It read more like a life style change than a diet which fits with what most people have been saying.
    So I'm feeling pretty good

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    Great news Bordeaux! We look forward to yoru updates and will all behelping you alogn the way to stay motivated.

    I'd like to highlight a very important thing that Hyacinth said in their fabulous post:
    pay more attention to how your clothes fit or the tape measure than the scales - because muscle weighs more than fat and if you up your exercise you will lose cm and gain muscle which the tape measure will show but the scales will not.

    I rarely weigh myself. I only judge my weight by my clothing and I judge my fitness by my energy levels and being able to talk and walk fast at the same time without gasping (very handy when you're with a friend and you need to go shopping and have very litle time!)
    A pessimist sees the glass as half empty;
    An optimist sees the glass as half full;
    A realist just finishes the damn thing and refills it.

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    I never used to weigh myself, I'm doing it more for my trainer than myself, although I have to a measuring tape as well (discovered my belly is the same size as my partner, he felt horrible since hes forever saying he's fat hehe)

    I can already feel my clothes are looser which makes going to see my trainer tonight not so hard but I do hope we do dancing instead of arobics/wieghts, he almost made me cry last time (but then we did an exersize where I got to kick him so it was ok )

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    Just thought i'd send you some positve reinforcement..

    Much the same as yourself, I had a big wake up call the year before last xmas last year which really made me realise i need to loose weight and fast! I have the worst metabolism ever ( it's that of a 45 yr old woman, and I am in my early 20's!) so i everything i put into my mouth really affects any weight loss or gain (when i'm naughty!)

    I agree with everything everyone has said so far!! For me the hardest thing was trying to 'do it all" its just bloody impossible to be honest!! I started with small things like cutting out coke and replacing it with Coke Zero. Then i went from drinking 3 cups a day of it, to one cup/glass a day at dinner time and replacing the rest with water... Thats only an example but you get the idea!

    I think making small steps in progress is the key!! I've been doing this for almost a year now and I still haven't got a perfect eating pattern but its a heck of a lot better then what it was thats for sure, and Im still improving it as we go.. Whilst you need both diet and exercise to loose weight, the emphasis really is on the diet (or eating, diet is such a bad word!) as thats 70 - 80% of it.. Scary but worth knowing..

    You can do it!! My only other advice that I have been given is when you do have a naughty meal/day and you fall off the horse, enjoy it and move on!! Theres nothing worse then eating something you shouldnt (or not exercising) and feeling guilty, it sets the ball in motion for major sabotage... Obviously don't allow yourself to fall off all the time, but the odd one here and there isn't the end of the world!!!

    I lied, i have 2 more bits of advice (if you don't mind) one is take pics!! before pics might be a bit late, but find one where you can see what you were, the worst pic is always the best as you can use it to compare where you are when you make milestones which is great for making you feel better

    And lastly!! Reward yourself for reaching the goals.. I tried to loose weight last year with the gungho approach of do it quickly and go go go.. I got 5 months into the year and had exhausted myself (with results, but been very hard on myself) and lost sight of what i was trying to achieve as it seemed to hard to loose the 10kg.. By the end of the year i had managed to put on another 9 in my depressed state from not reaching my goal...
    This year i made myself set milestones, 5 kgs at a time! and when i reach them I reward myself.. First 5 kgs, was a weekend away with the family down at the beach, next 5 kg (10kg loss) i went and got my hair chopped off (took a good ft' off hair off so it was dramatic) I felt great and really motivated!! My 15 kg goal was tickets to a gig i had been waiting years to see which i did last monday.. As for my 20 kg goal well im yet to decide, but you get the idea!! You can always change your mind, but have something that you are working towards that you REALLY want it helps you stay motivated!

    Looks like you've got a LOT of support here which is great!! It;s really important.. Like yourself my OH didn't see the weight change in me (or himself) and didn't care what size i was... Whilst he's not about to join me in my run around the block anytime soon, because I have to eat healthy i make everyone (not such a bad thing!) and he's lost 20 kgs himself in the same time....

    Enough rambling from me... GOOD LUCK AND KEEP GOING !!

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    Tell you what, reading everyones expirences (sp, sorry should have said you'll see this alot, spelling isn't one of my good points hehe) is a big help

    I never thought about taking before and after pics, but luckely I go to lot of costume nights so I have a lot pics from them.
    I've picked a goal outfit for myself, I'll need to drop 3 dress sizes before I can buy it.
    But I think I will also make smaller target goals (2 more kgs and I get my first one )

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    Hi.
    I am 53 and have had a few diets in my time. At 5ft 7 I have always been a 12/14 but when I got to 18 about 12 years ago I gave it my best dedicated try. I had done fad things, yoyo'd.
    The key is portion size, not denying yourself a treat and walking.

    I chose weight watchers (by mail) as I am a tad isolated out here.
    (I had tried Jenny Craig before)
    I learned the point values of food, even takeaway food. I learned how many points per day I could have, I could use them all on icecream if I wanted but I didn't. I learned by 20mts walking a day I could have the points gained from that as food or save them for if I was going out.
    I lost 18kg. I did not feel deprived as I could factor in anything I wanted, when I wanted as long as I kept to the limits. If I wanted a piece of apple pie then I compensated with no point veges, salads etc. When I plateaued I (NOT RECOMMENDED by WW but worked for me) I just ate what I wanted for a couple of days, stuff the points then weight loss started again.

    Over the next 12 years I put on 10 of them. I really didn't mind.

    The next diet I do not recommend, lol. I became ill and lost 7 kilos. I got down to 2kg over the weight I was married at for the second time 19 years ago. If I had achieved that weight by trying I would have chucked a party, lol.

    Have a piece of clothing you would realistically like to fit into again and let that be your guide, don't become a slave to the scales as I did as your moods can depend at times on how your weight is doing. It is bad when you weigh in the morning, naked, after a wee and you think of taking any jewelry off too because it could make it less lol.
    Last edited by Di_dee1; 10-14-2009 at 06:18 PM.

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    Congratulations Bordeaux!! Well done! You'll get there and the surest way is to do it step by step.
    Anne, you are spot on! Diet and exercise go hand in hand. And you are right it is hard work. I, however, don't use any low fat or low calorie packaged foods bought at the supermarket - not even milk. I use olive oil for cooking and on salads instead of butter and vegetable oil. We have a mediterranian diet so each meal is accompanied by a salad (this helps digestion and breaks down fat). Because we love bread, we choose now to eat the Lebanese bread which contains no calories and no fat. I even use it instead of Roti or Naan bread when I cook Indian food.

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    Ok so I've kinda fallen off my good good eating plan. It's like I'm sabortaging (sp) myself which makes me depressed so naturally I think 'I've already eaten something bad I might as well have something else' grrr

    I've only got myself to blame, but I'm trying again

    I've heard keeping a food diary can help. Has anyone tryed this and did it work?
    It's at work I'm having most of my trouble, at home I'm doing stuff so I dont even think about food. but as it gets closer to Christmas works getting quieter so I've got more time with no customers and there's only so many times I can clean the same bench or re-arrange the shelves lol

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