Page 7 of 10 FirstFirst ... 56789 ... LastLast
Results 61 to 70 of 96

Thread: I cropped Phi's ears!

  1. #61
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    SE QLD
    Posts
    2,903

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Lala View Post
    Yea I am not in circumcision but thats just coz it looks ugly LOL

    There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face.

  2. #62
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Southern NSW
    Posts
    3,784

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Keira & Phoenix View Post
    I can't believe you missed this thread Lala! I agree lots of good discussions and points in here.

    I am a bit like you I like the aesthetics of it and wouldn't be against getting a dog cropped down the track, but obviously not whilst living here.

    Just out of curiosity for those of you who are very anti-dock/crop. What are your thoughts on circumcision? This is a decision made by parents for a child when it is unable to make the decision for itself and would include a fair bit of pain for the baby I am sure. I guess I see this as a similar thing, I realise some do it for religious reasons but I know many who just do it because they prefer it....
    And I am not into it, because i have been the one holding the babies, when parents have insisted it should be done. And when i worked in midwifery it was still done ( I think it still is) without anesthetic. I feel if they wnt it done to their kids they should hold the baby......It's cruel....Gives me shivers just thinking about it. hated it, absolutely hated it. One of the reasons I left midwifery.......ughhhhh
    Pets are forever

  3. #63
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Canberra
    Posts
    4,290

    Default

    I think a dog with a docked tail misses a very important communication tool and I think that must affect their interaction with other dogs. There are quite a few messages you can get just from watching a dog's tail.

    I knew a SWF once whose tail was permanently paralysed after she nearly died from a paralysis tick and it greatly affected her confidence around other dogs.

    A tail is not just a useless appendage for a dog...

  4. #64
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Bayswater, Western Australia
    Posts
    134

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Nekhbet View Post
    Cropping and docking were also done to prevent illness. A spey is ten times the operation a correctly done dock or crop is, particularly in an older bitch.

    Responsible people prevent overpopulation, not desexing. It's an obsession here in Australia to desex whereas most other places it is not. Desexing encourages people to be lax in their training and responsibilities as we seem convinced its a cure all to our problems, whereas it's actually down on the list of responsibilities of a dog owner. I dont have desexed dogs and I wont ever again unless required to medically.
    Absolutely! I agree totally. I will never desex one of my dogs ever again. Sheesh! All my 3 dogs are desexed but why FFS! I just followed the lead of my dog park acquaintances and sterilised my dogs. I regret that now. I think that it is not that hard for a responsible owner to ensure that their intact dog does not breed, and I am certainly not convinced of the supposed health benefits of neutering. And don't get me started on the early neutering of puppies; that is just animal bastardry and is just animal cruelty.

    My next dog will keep its gonads all its life.

    ricey

  5. #65
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    SE QLD
    Posts
    2,903

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ricey View Post
    Absolutely! I agree totally. I will never desex one of my dogs ever again. Sheesh! All my 3 dogs are desexed but why FFS! I just followed the lead of my dog park acquaintances and sterilised my dogs. I regret that now. I think that it is not that hard for a responsible owner to ensure that their intact dog does not breed, and I am certainly not convinced of the supposed health benefits of neutering. And don't get me started on the early neutering of puppies; that is just animal bastardry and is just animal cruelty.

    My next dog will keep its gonads all its life.

    ricey
    Why do you regret having your dogs fixed? What exactly does it change?

    There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face.

  6. #66
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Canberra
    Posts
    4,290

    Default

    I have finally read the whole thread and I must say I do agree with mandatory desexing laws because the vast majority of people not desexing are irresponsible owners. Surely you must see that you are the exception? I meet plenty of entire male dogs wandering around the suburbs looking for love. And I wish the council would make more of an effort to crack down on it. We have had a few people here with accidental litters or who got a pup from such a litter. And we have also had a few who thought it was a good idea to let their bitch have a litter just because 'she's such a great dog'. In an ideal world everyone would train their dogs, make sure they are properly contained and think before they breed. But unfortunately we are far from that ideal and mandatory desexing laws are an imperfect but simple solution to deal with the problem.

  7. #67
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    2,388

    Default

    Hmm I personally think the majority of owners ARE pretty good owners IMO.

    There are thousands and thousands of dogs about, both desexed and entire, and to be honest, I dont see all that many just roaming around willy nilly and humping every bitch in sight.

    (Yes I understand shelters are full etc etc but they arent all roaming dogs)

  8. #68
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Southern NSW
    Posts
    3,784

    Default

    I desex my bitches, because ovarian cancer is quite common in older female newfies...Most Breeders even desex their bitches after using them for breeding. My dogs I leave entire. I have never had a mishap and never lost control over my dogs.
    But having a female in heat is often too much bother for Joe average. So i can fully understand why it is preferred to be done. Having had Katy for the last nearly three years as a full undesexed bitch and owning an entire male. I am quite looking forward to the fact i have no worries now, since she was done last Monday.......
    Pets are forever

  9. #69
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Bayswater, Western Australia
    Posts
    134

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by jadielee87 View Post
    Why do you regret having your dogs fixed? What exactly does it change?
    Desexing or keeping your dog entire changes nothing when it comes down to the responsibilities that a dog owner has in regard to their dog. It really does not matter whether your dog is entire or not from from a legal point of view. Ones responsibilities are the same. So, if the legal realities are accepted, another issue is that it is cheaper to own a sterilised dog rather than an entire dog. Me, I never got into dog ownership as a cheap option. I believe that a competent and responsible dog owner can contain their dog irrespective of whether their dog has functioning gonads. So, are there any real health benefits from neutering an individual dog, given that the owner can ensure that indiscrimate breedings do not occur?

    The jury is well and truly still out on this issue and it is unlikely that any consensus is likely to happen any time soon. Granted, a dog with no testicles won't get testicular cancer but they can still get prostate cancer or any of the common cancers that dogs do get. Proper bone and muscle development is a function of approriate testosterone levels and you won't get that if you lop off their nuts too early. Fortunately Hobbes was around 18 months old when I went against my better jugement and had his testicles excised. Both my female dogs had had their first heat before they were spayed and so they are less likely to develop pelvic floor insufficiency and become incontinent as they age.

    Incontinence is sited as a major reason for having dogs put down. Bitches that are spayed too early will not develop a mature pelvic floor musculature and are prone to incontinence. I regret sterilizing Hobbes, and I regret spaying Lulu and Lizzie. All three actions were unnecessary and did nothing to improve my dogs long term health outcomes.

    I am not an irresponsible dog owner; I am acutely aware of my responsilities. Having said that, I will never ever spay or neuter any of my dogs ever again. If you are a responsible owner, it is unnecessary.

    ricey

  10. #70

    Default

    Sadly too many dogs owners are irresponsible or do not realise what a male or in some cases a female dog will do when a bitch is in heat. 6 ft fences are no match for a male dog who wants to get to an on heat bitch, neither are plate glass windows, I know of dogs who have negotiated these obstacles and more to get to an on heat bitch. Certainly I didn't realise it, my older dog had her first heat before being desexed and I left her outside in our backyard during the day alone not realising the danger that a possible escaped male dog may pose to getting her pregnant.
    I obviously know now but it doesn't matter as both of my girls are now spayed. I will always spay for various reasons including I don't like the mess of a heat and I don't think adding extra hormones into a dogs system is great for their behavioural health, especially when you keep multiple females of Bully breeds.

    Sometimes I think the whole a big breed or male dogs need their testosterone to grow is a load of tosh. I know a Malamute who was unaltered up until 10 months old, he was weedy, thin, leggy and had aggression issues, within two weeks of being neutered he had put on weight, looked like a proper Mal and his aggression issues had stopped entirely, he is now a well behaved older dog who helps keep the younger dogs in line during out play groups.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •