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    Lala -
    I’m absolutely positive that Jethro is the dominant dog. We haven’t done anything to encourage this, it’s just the way it worked out. I’ve always subscribed to the hierarchy of the pack theory and it’s been working fine (well until these recent incidents). I feel like changing my approach now would confuse the dogs and could possibly make the situation worse.

    I certainly don’t mind Kenzie playing, but the other dogs need to be receptive to it. If they want to be left alone she needs to learn to respect that, which is why I think a correction is warranted.


    Keira & Phoenix –
    I broke up the fight when it was safe (for the dogs anyway) to do so, neither of them was latched on to the other. The fight consisted of a series of quick bites, no latching on at all. I realize that I was putting my hands/arms at risk and that I could have gotten bitten, but it was worth the risk to me, I didn’t want the dogs to get hurt. Hopefully there won’t be a next time, but if there is I will try your suggestion of lifting up the dog’s back legs and pulling her away.

    Thanks for your responses everyone!

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    I've recently been going through something quite similar. It's only been a few weeks so maybe you need to give Kenzie a little more time to settle into her new home.

    Just over a week ago, i bought a female english pointer. i all ready had a male staffy cross. i just find that the staffy has boundless amounts of energy, and like Kenzie, doesn't realise when enough is enough. He just keeps going and going and going. Some days i have to physically remove the pointer away from him, for him to realise that he's tired and wants to sleep. I've been lucky in that no serious fights have started between my two, but i do see that my staffy is learning. He just needed time to accept that she wasn't going anywhere. Stick out it, give it some more time and just keep doing as you are doing for now.

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    I understand I too have been guilty of sticking my hands/arms in but not since I started using the method I explained to you. It seems to work best.

    Hopefully it is just a settling in thing and as they grow up a little bit/get used to the new format (ie: 3 dogs) things will calm down. I still do recommend a behavioural trainer as it might go the opposite way and as the dogs mature the fights may get worse. Having someone on hand who knows the dogs and situations would be good and also putting in place preventative measures now is a good first step.

    Best of luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glitter009 View Post
    Lala -
    I’m absolutely positive that Jethro is the dominant dog. We haven’t done anything to encourage this, it’s just the way it worked out. I’ve always subscribed to the hierarchy of the pack theory and it’s been working fine (well until these recent incidents). I feel like changing my approach now would confuse the dogs and could possibly make the situation worse.

    I certainly don’t mind Kenzie playing, but the other dogs need to be receptive to it. If they want to be left alone she needs to learn to respect that, which is why I think a correction is warranted.
    But you are "encouraging " it IMO. You order food and affection in preference of what you perceive to be the dominant dog. To watch my dogs in my house, one would think the little dog is dominant...but shes not the big dog is if I had to choose one. Overall in our house I am the boss and the rest of th ehumans, inlcuding my 11 year old daughter.

    If you want to subscribe to the pack theory (I dont necessarily, nor do I necessarily dismiss it) then perhaps you already are confusing your dogs. Because even though you perceive one dog as being dominant, Kenzie wants to be dominant and is now challenging for that position and you are making it worse by favouring the one you think is dominant. Not sure if that has come out quite right.

    In regards to the corrections when she is playing, why are you correcting? I would let th eother dogs correct her when she is getting out of hand and just stand by for if it gets out of control.

    I basically never intefere with my dogs. We have never had a major scrap despite the different combinations of dogs, but we have had th eodd spat and I just leave them to it. My older dogs tell off the younger dogs and are een encouraged to discipline.

    I am not sure if I am making sense at all to be honest....maybe th epro will be here soon LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keira & Phoenix View Post
    LOL I might be being daft right now Di so forgive me if I am asking an obvious question but what do you mean when you say
    What is the quick fix?
    By quick fix I mean taking steps that minimise or end the problem fast.
    EG separating, creating an environment to alleviate the problem.

    As I live fairly remotely the chance of getting a behaviourist on to the farm to view and suggest solutions or me taking the dogs anywhere for evaluation is pretty well a given that will not happen.

    Problem with dogs being aggressive with food...feed them separately.

    Scratching at a window that is driving everyone bonkers...tape newspaper to the window so it can not be seen through.

    Dogs fighting, should have thought worst case scenario and had planned what would happen should there be problems.

    Of course it is a huge advantage to actually own where you are so you can make any adaptions needed.

    A lot is really just common sense to me. It may not seem like that to others.

    Renting can make it a whole different ball game though.

    Any posts made under the name of Di_dee1 one can be used by anyone as I do not give a rats.

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    Totally agree with the quick fixes didee....and often times that is all thats needed too,

    I have always rent and we have implented some quick fixes, we just make sure they are reversible lol

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    Thanks for clarifying and yes they are sometimes the best answer.

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    Hi Glitter,

    I have no huge experiences in this matter, but I found this today and thought of you. Please follow the link:

    http://leerburg.com/podcasts/dogfights.mp3

    Good luck!
    I love cooking but I love eating even more.

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    Thanks Hachna!

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    I have six dogs in total ranging from 1yr - 5.5 yrs. With a weight range from 11kg to over 30kg and increasing.
    3 entire bitches, 1 de-sexed bitch and 2 entire males.

    All of them run together.

    All bar one of my dogs will accept pretty much any newcomer, but at the same time none of them will tolerate any crap from them. The more time they spend together the less heavy handed they get until you would never know who arrived first and who arrived last.

    During the settling in phase all dogs will wear a collar so I came separate quickly if necessary. All dogs exercise will almost double, a tired dog is a happier dog.

    I will reward the dogs for positive behaviour towards each other. This may just be a matter of looking at each other or laying quietly beside each other.

    When I introduced the Borzoi last year it took two weeks before my entire male whippet would accept him. He didn't just want to play rough he wanted to drive that foreigner out of his territory.

    Also regarding the alpha thing, all my dogs are treated equal except for the order in which their food bowls go down, simply because I can't put them down all at the same time. So I select them in order of who places the highest value on food. As it happens it's my Gordon who places the highest value on food.

    The Gordon Setter bitch is alpha here to see the boys grovel to her is revolting. She does not get involved in any squabbles amongst the other dogs and is the least threatened by a newcomer into the home. No one challenges her, she is quietly confident of her position and doesn't need to prove it.

    I like to try and put 18 months in ages between my dogs, or otherwise the dog introduced is quite young in age.

    Until I'm confident nobody is going to be seriously hurt I take the easy option and separate when I'm not home.
    Last edited by MAC; 07-21-2011 at 02:57 PM.

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