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    I've got a few issues with Lacey's training. She is a fourteen wk Great Dane, very affectionate and smart. She has been going great with her training, but recently she has started barking defiantly at me instead of doing what I ask. She also still mouthes and is starting to draw blood. She also jumps up and grabs at my clothes, and then she will start barking at me and when I growl her she starts doing zoomies. She is starting to be quite badly behaved and if I don't get some results then Mum and Dad won't let me keep training her and they will do it their way which is basically whacking her for bad behaviour and rubbing her nose in it for toilet training, all that type of stuff. She is good with toilet training apart from one room and she is pretty good with training, she has all the basics down and quite a few tricks and she loves her clicker training. I have just started doing the TOT program with her and she is going well, almost instantly she will look at me and she already sits.

    Does anyone have any suggestions?

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    I'm guessing you were a bit startled possibly even scared when she started that sort of nonsense, if you were she would have picked up on your body language and saw your posture change and heard your voice change etc.
    My advice would be to instantly end the training session and don't let her see you standing there with a low confidence level.
    So say in a firm voice OVER and walk away - no more treats.
    You have to stay strong and controlling the food is a good way to do that.
    Don't stand there and plead with her, keep it on your terms, stay strong and walk away even if it's only for a few minutes, she'll get the message.

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    Yeah, when she does that it does startle me. It's also when she gets too excited playing. She'll be running around doing her thing, and I will get up and walk over somehere and she will start jumping up and grabbing my shorts, grabbing whatever is in my hands, and when I stop walking she starts her barking. It does startle me and I actually feel like I'm being yelled at in school or something. Should I put her outside whenever she starts this? She sounds actually pretty fierce, she's got the bark of an adult dog. There is never any teeth or growling, its just a play type bark, very excited. My parents go a bit troppo when they hear her do this, they don't want hr to ever bark at me. I'm the only one that she barks at too, I'm also her sole carer and trainer.

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    How long are your training sessions - she is only a baby, a young pup can not mentally handle too much. Are you just sticking to a few basics to start with. You may be trying to do too much and she is becoming tired and irritable and frustrated. Always try and end on a positive note so quit before she starts to say enough. Doing zoomies is often a sure sign of stress.

    A trainer told me a trick that sometimes works if a dog dog is jumping up at your front. Just keep walking towards her and she will find it hard to jump up.

    Have you got a toy you can redirect her teeth onto. Do you play with her during training - small amounts of training, lots of play.

    Are your parents putting too much pressure on you to have her perfectly behaved in a short space of time!

    Are you also crate training her?
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    Be paitant she's a baby & it sounds like you are both under great pressure to sucseed. She will pick up on your worries & that will not help either of you.
    Dogs go through an adulesence where they push boundries & see what will happen. Be firm & every single time see months or jumps up say no(stern not cranky voice) & remove yourself, sometimes simply turning your back & ignoring her will do.
    I would not being doing any rough play till she is a little older & nows the rules also.
    Make any training short & sweet at this age.
    It sounds like your doing a fine job just need to stick at it & not give her attention for the wrong reasons.

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    14 weeks is still very young, especially for a breed that takes around 2 years to mature physically and mentally. Keep the clicker training sessions to 5 mins max (maybe twice a day) and don't teach her more than the basics like sit, drop, shake, stay etc until she is maybe six months old. While she is this age, games are far more enticing to her!


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    Training sessions are about five minutes? And if what I am teaching her is easy she will stay there, otherwise she will just wander off. I've already been training her the basics, she sits, drops, stays, waits, etc easily. When I have the treats and clicker in full view she is attentive until she gets bored and wanders away. Its more when I ask for it without the treats and clicker around, like when I ask her to sit and wait for a photo, if I take too long and look at her for too long she starts up.

    Yeah I've got a toy, I just never have it on hand. I've now kind of got to the point where I can offer another toy and she gives up what she's got. I should hang it around my neck for when she's naughty and mouths.

    Well, yeah. They expect me to have results right now. They do recognise what I have already done but they don't trust me with the important stuff, they expect her to have the manners of a full grown dog it seems.

    I've got a crate for her, and she is crate trained, she will go in there and not complain but she doesn't really fit comfortably in there so I don't use it. She has to really squish in there.

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    Maybe instead of her crate you could use a couple of baby gates to give her a corner of whatever room suits you. This is what I do with larger dogs that feel too confined in even the biggest crates.

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    She will try and climb out of anything without a solid roof, so thats out... She can sit in the crate without her head touching the roof, but she can't sleep in there as she likes to stretch out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brittany View Post
    I've got a few issues with Lacey's training. She is a fourteen wk Great Dane, very affectionate and smart. She has been going great with her training, but recently she has started barking defiantly at me instead of doing what I ask. She also still mouthes and is starting to draw blood. She also jumps up and grabs at my clothes, and then she will start barking at me and when I growl her she starts doing zoomies.
    S: Most of these behaviours are coming from your dog trying to get a reaction from you, this tells me that the dog is engaged in you but you may be making training a little too hard for the age of the pup, so the pup is trying some training steps of her own


    She is starting to be quite badly behaved and if I don't get some results then Mum and Dad won't let me keep training her and they will do it their way which is basically whacking her for bad behaviour and rubbing her nose in it for toilet training, all that type of stuff.
    S: This wont work, so I would advise not going that way.

    She is good with toilet training apart from one room and she is pretty good with training, she has all the basics down and quite a few tricks and she loves her clicker training. I have just started doing the TOT program with her and she is going well, almost instantly she will look at me and she already sits.

    Does anyone have any suggestions?
    S: there are some other great suggestions here like crate training etc, but I would at this age be focusing on socialization and setting basic limits you can enforce, puppy class may be helpful you too if you can find a good one.
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