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    Bernie

    Snakeman hasn't been in for a few years, this is a very old thread. Maybe we should have started a new one for 2013?

    You might be able to contact him through his youtube channel
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGaemEJZXd4

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    I think you'll find silvershadow, that your definition of 'cannot keep', may differ from mine somewhat.
    A) because even if this were illegal, which it certainly is not in the manner i am doing so. I would still do it. How could i NOT? knowing i could of saved him had i given Vit C, and chose not to? Nah. Not happening.

    Antivenom, i would not keep, as it degrades too rapidly to be viable as you say. Cost: Cheaper than most people's anti psychotic medications. And no cost to tax payer. And really cheap compared to losing my dog
    ANY drug, can be kept at home by the owners, if it is prescribed appropriately. You can. I can. Any carer of any animal.

    It does certainly NOT have to be by a qualified practitioner. Many people inject themselves on a daily basis, who are not qualified practitioners. Diabetics being a great example.
    But you must be trained by someone who is qualified to teach safe injecting methods. I am one of those people. Also a nurse.
    My vet did ensure i knew how to. Im sure your vet would do this for you if your's are at risk. My friends have had to administer meds to their horses often. As its required. And in doses that could kill a human easily!
    It really isnt that unusual.

    anyhow, im hoping snakeman will advise if all this risk is worth it, or is it mumbo jumbo?

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    Hi Bernie, I said nothing of vit C. Antivenin is something I know of, as I had to find out about it before I could proceed with the keeping of venomous snakes. You will find that antivenin will not be prescribed to you (and if has been I'd personally be questioning the quality of the antivenin itself!) and no supplier will sell it to you (this I personally checked a year or so ago). It is supplied to hospitals and the sort. It may be cheaper than some other drugs, but the cost adds up if you need to replace it constantly, especially since one "dose" (ie, the amount required to save a life) is generally a few vials. This is of course different overseas, but they have a much stricter regime for keeping venomous snakes (ie, the "survival" courses required to even begin the course). I don't think someone without these courses can purchase it, and why would you want to? The antivenin for rattlesnakes in certain areas goes well over 3-4k per VIAL (with 3-15 + vials required to save a life... yeah no thanks!).

    The for interests sake, antivenin is classed as a scheduled 4 drug, which requires the administration and monitoring of a healthcare professional.

    The issue with antivenin is not the injection itself, it's the fact it has a fairly high rate of causing anaphylaxis and other reactions. Like I said, is about as dangerous as the venom itself. Whether a dog would have this same reaction I wouldn't be able to tell you, but that would be interesting to find out.
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    Snake netting checked.
    Shotgun in the safe ready to be grabbed.
    I don't give a rats if people don't like this.
    Wayyyy too many snakes here. Had I think 7 all up last season in the netting trying to get into the dog's area. Browns and a few RRBs.
    I have had animals killed by snakes and it ain't happening to my dogs if I can help it.
    Last fatality was my second cat in an unnetted area at the end of last season. There is no way I can net all out the front.

    Any posts made under the name of Di_dee1 one can be used by anyone as I do not give a rats.

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    Hello ;-)
    Good to see the same old faces...



    Looking forward to educating the scared and ignorant

    Cheers

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    Hello,
    if you need any snake advice, feel free to contact me
    Last edited by Snake Catcher; 09-26-2013 at 12:55 PM.

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    When i first migrated to Australia, i had a one in my garden, a protected species. Called a snake collection service, who wanted $150 to take it away!
    But its a protected species? Didnt count.
    What if i refuse to pay? Didnt count.
    so i did refuse, he tipped the snake back into garden and left.
    cut the bugger in half. sorted, cost nowt.
    Endangered species my arse!

    Blimey, i knew it was expensive, but that's a heap of money for antivenom! a heap of money.
    My nets are down on perimeters. I have a trojan spade with sharp edge ready. Dont have a gun, or this would be great practice. But as havent shot one in decades, perhaps leave it to shovel to do the job.

    thanks for sharing silvershadow, i had no idea the rigmarole snake keepers have to go through! But glad that there is training of sorts out there before folk take an venomous snake to live with their kids and families.
    Never seen the attraction myself, but know others that have got the snake fad bad. Including my mates carpet python. which i tell myself is fine, cant hurt me, wont hurt me, been fed. But you know what, i always suggest my place to meet. Not hers lol.

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    I am a snake catcher in Melbourne Bernie and there are some catchers here who are rude and some who are expensive.

    They are sometimes rude because everyday they have to listen to people like yourself, who come to the beautiful country to breath the air and soak up the sun, and be close to nature.

    Nature takes the form of a scared snake, and you just want to kill it.

    They are sometimes expensive because the may have spend hours delving through your crappy backyards, trying to save the life a snake that someone like you just wants to kill in some vain attempt to rid the country side of them.

    They are expensive because they are trying to deal with on of the most toxic species in the world... and remove a snake for them.

    Personally, I would never release a snake anywhere where an ignorant hillbilly could hurt them and your snake catcher needs shooting for that.

    Burnie wrote:

    When i first migrated to Australia, i had a one in my garden, a protected species. Called a snake collection service, who wanted $150 to take it away!
    But its a protected species? Didnt count.
    What if i refuse to pay? Didnt count.
    so i did refuse, he tipped the snake back into garden and left.
    cut the bugger in half. sorted, cost nowt.
    Endangered species my arse!

    Blimey, i knew it was expensive, but that's a heap of money for antivenom! a heap of money.
    My nets are down on perimeters. I have a trojan spade with sharp edge ready. Dont have a gun, or this would be great practice. But as havent shot one in decades, perhaps leave it to shovel to do the job.
    Last edited by Snake Catcher; 09-27-2013 at 06:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snake Catcher View Post
    Hello,
    if you need any snake advice, feel free to contact me
    Hi 'Snake Catcher' and to the forum !

    A question for you !

    What are some ways we can implement to keep snakes away from directly near our houses or in our houses ?
    Last edited by RileyJ; 09-26-2013 at 01:45 PM.

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    I have to agree with Snake Catcher on this one. Snakes are part of nature and personally I kinda feel privileged when I get to meet one. And there were summers when I used to meet quite a few when out on walks here. Bit different when they are on your property, but I'd pay the money to have them removed instead of killing them just because they found themselves in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    I have an appointment with a dog trainer tomorrow who organises classes to teach dogs snake avoidance. She has 6 dogs on a property and claims all her dogs, even her terriers, will leave snakes alone.

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