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    I am just going to put this out there.

    Domestic dogs are not wolves. There is research about it.

    Domestic dogs live in families.

    Ie: You are Mummy, OH is Daddy and the dogs are the kids. They do not have a pecking order, except that YOU are in charge, you control resources etc. Neither dog will be dominant over the other.

    Yes you *might* have spats. But a healthy "spat" would be your older dog, telling your younger dog off by growling maybe a quick snap but nothing more, if your older dog goes any further then that, well then you need to break it up.

    Pups have what we call a puppy license until about 6 months old, prior to 6 months you older dog will probably let the pup get away with loads and then all of a sudden after 6 months will start telling pup off for things. So keep on eye on that.

    Nala telling the pup off though is not a dominant thing, it is a manners thing, and a well mannered older dog is a great example for a pup and will help you pull a pup into line and teach it manners when around other dogs.
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    there is a pic I posed earlier in the thread of her having a sniff (she was actually trying to clean them but the duckings were a little to small for her big tongue) its not great quality sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misschief View Post
    No Not at all im very much grateful for the response im getting, yes I must admit I was not a big fan of pitty's until I met Nala... she is now like my child and It makes me so so sooo sad to hear of all these pit bulls which have just been raised in the wrong hands. I have a maltese terrier at my folks place.. tried to introduce nala to Milly (the maltese) not a good idea turns out Milly has little dog syndrome and nala has tail between the legs syndrome...but she is wonderful I have a photo of her with my pet ducks..she actually took on mother roll it was very cute.

    there we go

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keira & Phoenix View Post
    I am just going to put this out there.

    Domestic dogs are not wolves. There is research about it.

    Domestic dogs live in families.

    Ie: You are Mummy, OH is Daddy and the dogs are the kids. They do not have a pecking order, except that YOU are in charge, you control resources etc. Neither dog will be dominant over the other.

    Yes you *might* have spats. But a healthy "spat" would be your older dog, telling your younger dog off by growling maybe a quick snap but nothing more, if your older dog goes any further then that, well then you need to break it up.

    Pups have what we call a puppy license until about 6 months old, prior to 6 months you older dog will probably let the pup get away with loads and then all of a sudden after 6 months will start telling pup off for things. So keep on eye on that.

    Nala telling the pup off though is not a dominant thing, it is a manners thing, and a well mannered older dog is a great example for a pup and will help you pull a pup into line and teach it manners when around other dogs.
    Well I have also read this, I actually hope Nala will do this as she is good with rules in the house and yard....just not so good at keeping her feet grounded when she knows the neighbours dog is at the fence humph

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keira & Phoenix View Post
    I am just going to put this out there.

    Domestic dogs are not wolves. There is research about it.

    Domestic dogs live in families.

    Ie: You are Mummy, OH is Daddy and the dogs are the kids. They do not have a pecking order, except that YOU are in charge, you control resources etc. Neither dog will be dominant over the other.

    Yes you *might* have spats. But a healthy "spat" would be your older dog, telling your younger dog off by growling maybe a quick snap but nothing more, if your older dog goes any further then that, well then you need to break it up.
    When I was younger, if my little sister got something and I didn't (being older and here first ) I was p**sed off! lol. So with things like treats and meals in my house, Harley is always first... just the way I do things!

    Harley only ever gives Bella warnings to leave him alone when she gets annoying (she is very persistent when she is bored and wants to play). It doesn't worry her though - she always continues on with what she is doing

    There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face.

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    I don't know if there is much footage on wolves actually living in the wild yet. But there is on some of the other dog species. My absolute favourite is the African wild dog. They are way more focussed on cooperation and team work than on dominance. And yes, the dominant male and female get to eat first when they catch prey - together with all the pups! - but they will also regurgitate food for the babysitters when they return home. I saw one doco with a dog that had a badly healed broken leg which made him useless on a hunt, and he was treated like all other members of the pack and got his share of the food. They just always seem so caring towards eachother. The young males won't usually confront the dominant male either. If they don't like not being able to breed, they will just leave and hope that they can lure some females away from another pack and start their own pack. So different from the dog-eat-dog lifestyle that they try to make us believe wolves live by.

    Sorry, OTT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beloz View Post
    I don't know if there is much footage on wolves actually living in the wild yet. But there is on some of the other dog species. My absolute favourite is the African wild dog. They are way more focussed on cooperation and team work than on dominance. And yes, the dominant male and female get to eat first when they catch prey - together with all the pups! - but they will also regurgitate food for the babysitters when they return home. I saw one doco with a dog that had a badly healed broken leg which made him useless on a hunt, and he was treated like all other members of the pack and got his share of the food. They just always seem so caring towards eachother. The young males won't usually confront the dominant male either. If they don't like not being able to breed, they will just leave and hope that they can lure some females away from another pack and start their own pack. So different from the dog-eat-dog lifestyle that they try to make us believe wolves live by.

    Sorry, OTT!
    Yup.

    And research on wild Wolf packs actually show that in the end the majority of Wolves end up being in charge of their own pack at some stage or other. By becoming parents

    If anyone is interested here is a good article on dominance theory
    http://www.4pawsu.com/dogpsychology.htm
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    Where would first time puppy owners be without you lot hahah thanks

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    From a different perspective, my old dog was always getting into scraps over rank (or so it seemed anyway). But once the scrap was over, she rarely went back. It was just to determine everyone's rank in the pecking order and once that was sorted everyone knew their place and just got on with life.

    The only thing that did continue was her guarding her food when we had other dogs staying. That is definitely something to watch out for and to tackle if it happens.

    So with for my dog, it was usually ok to just let her work it out with the other dog. But I think it really depends on the dogs...

    I do agree that you would normally favour the one that seems higher in the pecking order when it comes to things like who gets fed first or who gets the last pat.

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    food and toys there will be a war over those if we do not monitor the dogs, no toys can be left out because Nala will not give up a toy for anything
    Last edited by Misschief; 10-14-2011 at 11:34 AM.

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