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    Default Hello From Ozdogtrainer

    Hi to everyone. I have just joined the forum and thought I could come in here and start helping with some dog training tips and dog's in general.

    I look forward to sharing some great dog stories and ideas to all of our fellow dog lovers out there.

    cheers,

    Glen

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    Hi Glen! Aren't you going to introduce your handsome mate in your avatar??!!!

    Welcome. Great to have you here, eagerly waiting to hear about your preferred training methods.

    We get some good debates here!!

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    Welcome, I just had a peak at your Blog. Hope you will stay to help some people with all their problems
    Pets are forever

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    Hi Villan & Flirt.

    That hansome fellow was Dutch. He was the 4th Police Dog I handled. I raised him as a pup. He was prematurely thrust into police work as my current police at the time was diagnosed with a tumour on the heart and was retired immediately.

    Preferred training methods. When I first joined the dog squad back in the early 90's, everything was compulsion. I never knew about clicker training and operant conditioning back then.

    Then I hit a ceiling with my own performance and started searching for more information and discovered operant conditioning. I inundated myself with the philosophies and soaked it all up, I loved it. I started using food, clickers, and all sorts of postive reinforcement training. Then a weird thing happened, my dog got good, real good and he and I won the Australia/New Zealand Police Dog Trials.

    Many could go onto say the dog was red hot, but he was nearly kicked off the initial course that we started, so he was borderline. Plus, 2 other handlers had a look at him before me and knocked him back.

    As far as teaching behaviours, it's food and clickers all the way for me.

    As far as behaviour problems go, depending on the situation, I will use an aversion of sorts, depending on the dog, but I will always try to train an incompatable behaviour to replace the undesirable behaviour. Then depending on the problem, create an outlet for the behaviour so it can be satisfied.

    As always, I find with dog problems, I train the owner's more than the dog..hehe

    I hope to be able to pass on some of my expertise in here and help out people. My plan is to create lots of videos and put them on my site and youtube channel.

    I am already writing articles on ezine articles and they have just promoted me to a Diamond Author, they're highest level which I am stoked about. Apparently that is hard to get.

    Anyway, thanks for making me welcome.

    cheers,

    Glen

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    Hello and welcome !!
    Certainly looking forward to getting to know you and your advice which is always welcome here .
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    Site still in construction so will post link when it's finished.

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    Welcome!! I have a 10 week old puppy that might benefit (or should that be me that might benefit) from your expertise!!

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    Sure thing Chez, ask any questions you like, I am more than happy to help.

    cheers,

    Glen

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    Well Glen I might hit you for a suggestion
    We have just recently brought home a very timid newfoundland male dog. he was mistreated. We are not 100% sure exactly happened, you never really know.
    He was initially very worried about both of us too, but is now happy at home and confident and plays with our other three dogs and us. And loves to go home for a swim. We are heavily into obedience and go at least twice a week. he was worried initially when we got there, but with the help of everyone just letting him be and ignoring him until he moves to them he has become fairly confident there too. Especially at the Beginners class, where all the dogs were happy and relaxed. He is very friendly to other dogs and loves kids and most women. And most the people at the Kennel Club are women. It is obviously all to do with loud women and big men.
    We make no fuss over him when he literally shrinks, when a man walks nearby. We just go on as if nothing is happening. He has shown no fear aggression at all, even when we picked him up from the Kennel and he was very timid. We just sat on the floor until he came to us.
    I was just wondering if we can help him in any way. Home is fine now. And I would say the Kennel Club is now fairly good too. But a vet's visit was very nerve racking to him. We probably made the mistake of bringing him alone and not bringing along our super happy Kate. He does use the other dogs to feel happier. They are all easy going and happy dogs now. We only took him to the vet to weigh him, we will leave the heart worm testing and vaccinations until he is more settled.
    I have worked previously with fear aggression and found it easier to deal with, because we just did a lot of active obedience and counter conditioning/desensitisation with the dog who was people and dog aggressive.It took six months + , but she is great now But this is more difficult, because he is so soft and worried and really does nothing wrong. He has no Obedience history and we are presently just getting him to heel, sit and drop quite successfully. He won't do food rewards at the Kennel Club, so still a little worried, but will at home. But he loves to be fussed over and will even get happy at the Kennel Club when we pet him after a good sit/drop/stand.
    I suppose i am finding hard to know how to ignore his "shrinking" and if that is enough. he will now greet two of the male Trainers. We did the sideways/semi circle approach and they were easy to direct. Do we just keep going or should we do more active desensitisation, though his only reaction is "shrinking" ,(he get lower to the ground looking away, licking lips, no yawning) and so far I have just turned away, been happy and come back in an more indirect route, whilst doing some simple heeling and sits. We are not avoiding, but not pushing either, giving him space and time.
    I might have left something out and sorry this is so long winded, I just needed to "talk" to someone who might have some more ideas.
    And by the way, hubby is over six foot and is now his favourite person, he is definitely his dog.
    Thank you in advance I hope you don't mind, I feel rather cheeky asking for help. The dog Trainer who helped me with my People and dog aggressive Newfie is away for a few months, bad timing But rescues have a habit of turning up unexpectedly
    I am just a little stuck and no one here seems to really have any further ideas
    Pets are forever

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    I know I'm not a professional trainer but have you tried getting various people to give your new newfie a few treats?

    My dog shrinks when certain people approach for Stand for Exam. Even people she normally likes, but the ones that have given her treats, she's all over like a rash, and then the hard bit is getting her to stay still until "exercise complete".

    She shrinks more when the instructor is a woman that freaks me out. That one is into physical and verbal "corrections" which I strongly disapprove of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    I know I'm not a professional trainer but have you tried getting various people to give your new newfie a few treats?

    My dog shrinks when certain people approach for Stand for Exam. Even people she normally likes, but the ones that have given her treats, she's all over like a rash, and then the hard bit is getting her to stay still until "exercise complete".

    She shrinks more when the instructor is a woman that freaks me out. That one is into physical and verbal "corrections" which I strongly disapprove of.
    Thank you. Yes that is what we are doing at present, but he will only eat from hubby and I at present. the best at present is to just one of us to sit next to one of the guys and wait for Lukey to come to us. Our friends have been really helpful and giving us their time. the best approach seems to be from an arch to his side, but he still "shrinks" Your treat method worked really well with Annabelle, because she always found food very important and would almost allow anything for treats, which is why her counter conditioning worked so well.
    Lukey will so far only eat at home or in the car, with just us. He is getting better with the ladies at some of our quieter practices, not as many people and only the really dog savvy people.
    So I think we will just keep plodding along.
    I think he has had an over corrective past, I can tell by how he shrinks when he thinks he is caught out sniffing something. he still seems surprised that nothing happens now when caught out, at the most I will call his name if he is sniffing inappropriate things.
    He is a real sweetie though and every day he just seems a little happier here at home
    Pets are forever

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