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    I think I already mentioned that I DO NOT need a bunch of people on the internet reading me the riot act. Do not tell me to volunteer in shelters!!!

    First off, every dog I have owned bar 2 have been cross breeds and all but one from animal shelters!!!

    How old are you dogs? I have a Chow X Pomerranian that is now 14 years old and was a stray dog that we got from a shelter....... Vet also says he thinks he has another 4 years at least. The dog is healthy and I bloody look after my dogs better then most people do. My mum has a staffy X that is 17.

    Another question...... You people that say you are breeders how much do you sell your puppies for? ALOT!!! So if its not for making money then why breed???

    You also have to remember that some people cant afford to buy these "perfect dogs". What about the people that want a dog but cant aford the massive amount of $$$ to buy one. I know I cant afford a huge amount to buy a dog. And I can tell you one thing its the people that struggle with money are the ones that will look after there dogs damn well!!! There are a few exceptions but Im one of those people that dont have alot of money.

    So before you get on your so called "high horse" think about how much money you are profiting from breeding!!!


    She is a Collie X Shih tzu........ My mum calls her the Boarder**** for short so I changed it to BoarderPoo...... Sounds a bit nicer.

    Also some of you people but your dogs through this super strict dog training...... Why not just let your dog be a dog?

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    *sigh* where is Nattylou when you need her...

    I can't even begin to explain how wrong your post is
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoarderPoo View Post
    I think I already mentioned that I DO NOT need a bunch of people on the internet reading me the riot act. Do not tell me to volunteer in shelters!!! Volunteer in a shelter.

    First off, every dog I have owned bar 2 have been cross breeds and all but one from animal shelters!!!So why would you want to put more in there? It's bad enough that when one dog gets put in a shelter, another gets PTS because they just don't have enough room.I've owned a crossbreed before, and they are great dogs, but why would you want to breed more when they can easily adopt a puppy from a shelter and save a life, instead of potentially killing another one when they get sick of this dog and put in in a shelter, causing another dog to be PTS?

    How old are you dogs? I have a Chow X Pomerranian that is now 14 years old and was a stray dog that we got from a shelter....... Vet also says he thinks he has another 4 years at least. The dog is healthy and I bloody look after my dogs better then most people do. My mum has a staffy X that is 17. Age has nothing to do with it...

    Another question...... You people that say you are breeders how much do you sell your puppies for? ALOT!!! So if its not for making money then why breed???Good, reputable, ethical breeders breed for love of the breed. They charge that much not to make money, but to cover the vet bills, health test bills, vaccination, registering, etc. Those things aren't cheap. Also there is stud fees, C-sections if needed, X-rays, ultrasounds, Myf, I'm sure you could add more?

    You also have to remember that some people cant afford to buy these "perfect dogs". What about the people that want a dog but cant aford the massive amount of $$$ to buy one. I know I cant afford a huge amount to buy a dog. And I can tell you one thing its the people that struggle with money are the ones that will look after there dogs damn well!!! There are a few exceptions but Im one of those people that dont have alot of money. I don't have a load of cash either, but if I wanted a cheaper dog, I would get one from a shelter and save a life rather than fund the people who put more unwanted, unhealth tested dogs out there with a very high chance of genetic disease, which would cost more to look after than buying a risk reduced puppy from a good reg breeder would cost.

    So before you get on your so called "high horse" think about how much money you are profiting from breeding!!! As a matter of fact, most breeders (GOOD, REPUTABLE breeders) actually don't profit. They do it for the love of the breed.


    She is a Collie X Shih tzu........ My mum calls her the Boarder**** for short so I changed it to BoarderPoo...... Sounds a bit nicer. *border*

    Also some of you people but your dogs through this super strict dog training...... Why not just let your dog be a dog? Like age, training has nothing to do with this discussion.
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    Guess some of you people dont like it when someone has an opinion and you dont like it!!! You are all like sheep. And thats really sad.

    Hate to tell you I have seen puppies for sale in excess of $1000 now you tell me that there making no profit!!!

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    I think I already mentioned that I DO NOT need a bunch of people on the internet reading me the riot act. Do not tell me to volunteer in shelters!!!

    Was not telling you, was just a suggestion that's all.

    I'll now do as requested and walk away from this thread.

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    Well maybe you shouldnt suggest things like that when you dont know someone. Considering I spent 6 months volunteering in a pet shelter, had to stop because of my paid work. But thanks for playing.

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    Responsible, reputable, registered breeders pay...
    Buying initial dog -approx. $800
    Health test per dog - approx. $400(doesn't include breed specific tests)
    First year of general dog ownership - approx. $1,500
    Stud fee - approx. $400
    Special food and vitamins for pregant dog - approx. $500
    Birthing equipment - approx. $100
    Wormers, vet check ups, puppy food etc. - approx. $300 per puppy

    Oh and I know a lot of breeders like to have a spare $5,000 in case of an emergency.

    Hmmmm, I don't think real breeders do it for the money to be honest...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoarderPoo View Post
    How old are you dogs? I have a Chow X Pomerranian that is now 14 years old and was a stray dog that we got from a shelter....... Vet also says he thinks he has another 4 years at least. The dog is healthy and I bloody look after my dogs better then most people do. My mum has a staffy X that is 17.

    You also have to remember that some people cant afford to buy these "perfect dogs". What about the people that want a dog but cant aford the massive amount of $$$ to buy one. I know I cant afford a huge amount to buy a dog. And I can tell you one thing its the people that struggle with money are the ones that will look after there dogs damn well!!! There are a few exceptions but Im one of those people that dont have alot of money.

    Also some of you people but your dogs through this super strict dog training...... Why not just let your dog be a dog?
    Borderpoo, I own Border collies, I dont breed them. There are plenty of Border Collies available from rescue. I have two young dogs I got from rescue. Farmers often try and give them away if they are surplus to their needs.

    As to testing, I have a young dog from an untested mating with elbow dyplasia the choice was either euthanaise or spend $4000 on surgery. A friend of mine had a similar problem with a cross bred puppy she got from a pet store, she had to euthanaise her beloved dog at age 4 as she couldnt afford the surgery. She looked after her dog well but simply couldnt afford the surgery from hip dysplasia.

    Untested dogs can often cause terrible expense and are usually eithanaised because people cant afford it. They often dont realise that getting a dog that is free of these in the first place can often save money down the track.

    I have had mainly purebred dogs either from rescue or breeders and The oldest lived to 17 and the youngest I have lost to old age was 15. Very healthy dogs.

    A well trained dog can easily be a dog. My dogs work my sheep and love it, They do agility and love it, I can take them to the beach and they they run and play, but they come when they are called. They are all high drive and energetic and love training. Without training and lots of mental and physical stimulation they would go out of their mind with boredom. Hence the number of Border collies and kelpies that end up in rescue.
    Nothing super strict about it at all - it is about having fun with your dog.

    My last purebred dog cost me $400 and she came with all the neccesary testing - eyes, hips and elbows.

    No we are not like sheep, but there are a lot of people out there who breed for reasons that are nothing more than old wives tales, that is sheep to me. They dont do their research, they dont want to listen and they dont understand the potential downstream effects of what they are doing. That is really sad.
    Last edited by Kalacreek; 01-10-2011 at 05:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoarderPoo View Post
    Guess some of you people dont like it when someone has an opinion and you dont like it!!! You are all like sheep. And thats really sad.

    Hate to tell you I have seen puppies for sale in excess of $1000 now you tell me that there making no profit!!!
    No we are all educated on the subject of breeding and some of us had the exact same attitude as you before we knew better

    I hope you can walk away and calm down and then come back with an open and less defensive attitude.

    btw: I saw a "pure bred" cavalier (no papers) for $1200 in a pet shop and my breeder sells her cavaliers with papers and show quality, for $800.
    She gave me my Miley for free.. so in it for the money? I don't think so.

    I just rehomed my pug after 2.5 years and contacted the breeder where I got him and they knew exactly who my dog was when I phoned and they had my file and details without me giving them my name.. they knew who I was when I said the dogs name. A good breeder knows where every pup goes and what happens with them thru their lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puggerup View Post
    No we are all educated on the subject of breeding and some of us had the exact same attitude as you before we knew better
    Aint that the truth! I had never even heard of elbow dysplasia before I ended up with a dog from a BYB with ED.

    Didnt that ever cost me a lot of money and heartache. But I certainly learnt a lot about breeding and in my journey to help her met a lot of other people with similar stories and heartaches.
    Last edited by Kalacreek; 01-10-2011 at 05:47 PM.

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