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  1. #21
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    If I was to breed her it would be with a Boarder Collie.

    She is bigger then a Shih tzu and alot smaller then a Collie. When we took her for her last lot of injections he said she might get about an inch taller. But she is more just filling out now. She is very broad in the shoulders. I will try and get a new picture of her but everytime I whip out a camera she turns around just as I take the picture.

    She hardly ever barks. We leave her outside during the day unless its raining and alot of people walk past with there dogs and she runs to the fence to look at the them but thats it, Doesnt really growl when your playing with her.

    But when she is playing with her chew toys...... Well when I say chew toys she has heaps of them, but she prefers to play with an empty 600ml coke bottle or a 3L milk container cos she chases it around, its too big for her to pick up..... But anyway back to the point, you will be sitting on the couch on the laptop and there will be a projectile coming straight at you. she throws her toys and then gives you a really confused look when you pass it back to her.

    I love my dog. Even my partner turns into a softie with her when he gets home.

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    If you breed her with something bigger, she may have trouble with the pregnancy and birth because the bigger puppies won't fit.

    If you think lots of people want your puppies with no genetic health tests - and no warranty from you - I would get each one to promise in writing that they will take a puppy - before you get your dog pregnant.

    Pregnancies do not calm a bitch down. Bitches do not "long" for a litter of puppies or feel incomplete without one. And there are loads of dangerous things that can go wrong with a pregnancy - you risk killing your gorgeous little dog.

    I'd pay attention to what Kalacreek says. Just because your puppy is cute - doesn't mean its puppies won't end up in rescue. Back yard breeders are where most puppies in rescue come from. Both buyers and breeders have no idea what they're in for so the puppies end up in rescue.

    And it's expensive. All those genetic tests, vet checkups, emergency c-sections, vaccinations etc.

    What is a backyard breeder? - RSPCA Australia knowledgebase

    What is a responsible companion animal breeder? - RSPCA Australia knowledgebase

    http://www.dogforum.com.au/general-d...you-breed.html

    In QLD and the ACT it is about to be come illegal for a person to breed and sell puppies without getting the genetic health tests done. In QLD the breeder will be responsible for all vet costs related to a preventable genetic problem in the puppies they sell. I expect other states and territories will copy these laws.

    If you really love your dog, you will get her desexed.
    Last edited by Hyacinth; 01-10-2011 at 12:50 PM.

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    As I said, if I wish to have a litter of puppies with my dog I will do, and I DO NOT need or wish to be told what I can do and what I cant do with MY dog.

    I had a staffy who had puppies, they all got sold privately, no papers. Had there imunisations up to date before they were sold. I still see the dogs around and she had puppies 8 years ago.

    If you think I would just let any old person take a puppy, your wrong!!! I had a lot of people wanting the puppies from my staffy and alot of them got rejected because I didnt feel comfortable.

    There is nothing wrong with cross breed dogs and quit often they can be alot nicer in temperament then straight breed dogs.

    I did not join these forums to be read the riot act by people I do not know. I joined these forums because I am dog owner that has the odd question that I need help with.

    So to anyone that wants to continue to try and read me the riot act, dont bother. I think I would know whats best for my dog!!!

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    'BorderPoo' ... How did people figure out it was Border Collie X Shi Tzu? I read it as BC X Poodle.... ???

    BoarderPoo; before you write off everyone here who attempts to give you well meaning advice, consider this; a forum is a place where a wide variety of people with different experiences and personalities come together to discuss a common interest, and the probability of all 'liking' each other in 'real life' is exceedingly slim, as is the likelihood of agreeing with each other 100% of the time... And every one of us will promote our own opinion, that is a natural human act, and gives you the benefit of thoughts and ideas you may not have considered... AND you get the enormous experience database. Disagree if you like, and absolutely have your own opinion, but also try to be gracious- noone on a forum NEEDS to bite the hand...
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    Border poo, this is not a personal attack....Please, before you breed from her.......

    If possible, find some time to visit or volunteer with an animal shelter or pound.

    Spend time caring for these BYB animals, learn why they are there, experience their miserable lives due to genetic faults, long term neglect, poor socialisation, anxiety, confusion, the list is endless.

    So often volunteers arrive all happy and ready to help, then they notice a particular pen is empty, or another dogs is in it. It is soul destroying to see their mood plummet when they learn it was euthed the day before.

    I dare you not to bond with them, feel frustrated & even annoyed with BYB.

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    Some people will just never listen to another person's good point, even when it is staring them in the face.

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    Crossbreeds have better temperaments then purebreds!? Thats the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard!

    50,000 dogs and puppies get put down every year in Australia. That means there are fifty thousand dogs that don't have a home. Why on earth would you bring a litter of about 8 puppies into the world when fifty thousand dogs are already dying.
    And im often responsible for some of the euthanasia!

    I have lectured this issue that many times... and I've learnt with some people, they WILL NOT listen.
    If you are going to ignore opinions and facts of rescuers, real breeders, people in the vet industry and general dog lovers that make up the forum then thats not fair on your dog and is incredibly closed minded.

    Im a vet nurse, here are few of my personal experiences...
    -Golden Retriever, $7,000 emergency C-section, all puppies died except one.
    -Shih Tzu, $3,000 vet bill after she had difficulty giving birth, all the puppies were dead.
    -Maltese comes in after her owners discovers her third puppy is stuck. Its too later and both puppy and mother died.

    Its not as easy as putting one and two together. Especially with crossbreeds as they are different in size.

    BUT after all this, if you still want to breed. Its spelt Border Collie and Shih Tzu.

    The forum isn't trying to be 'mean' to you, we are all here with a common goal as V&F said, and that is our love for dogs.
    Education not Legislation

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    Trouble is sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you dont.

    So if you decide to breed please listen at least to this.

    I am a long term owner of Border Collies and they have various genetic diseases that need to be tested for. You could well breed and everything could go right but sometimes it doesnt.

    But if you do here are the tests that each BC parent will need to make sure the puppies are healthy.

    There is one devastating one called TNS. If both parents are carriers the puppies have what is like fading puppy syndrome. They are born with no immune system and die from numerous infections. Most BC breeders now always test for this before they breed as it has become increasingly common. I know of two untested litters that have died this way - shocking and expensive for everyone concerned

    The other tests are eye tests for CL and CEA/CH and of course hip dysplasia. Every BC breeder who cares about their puppies tests for these.

    Temperament is important, we get a lot of BCs dropped of in rescue mainly because they are high drive, get bored and jump fences and are too much for their owners to handle.

    My BCs are all purpose bred working dogs so I look for high drive and good working ability. Probably not something you would be looking for so be aware.

    All ethical breeders will also ask that if one of their pups ever needs to be rehomed that they are notified so it doesnt end up in the pound.
    Last edited by Kalacreek; 01-10-2011 at 12:06 PM.

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    As I said, if I wish to have a litter of puppies with my dog I will do, and I DO NOT need or wish to be told what I can do and what I cant do with MY dog.
    So no sign of being the least bit responsible about it or having the best interests of your dog or her puppies or their future or the future owners vet bills.
    Last edited by puggerup; 01-10-2011 at 01:22 PM.

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    *mod hat on*

    No personal attacks. Give advice and educate and walk away if it isn't appreciated.

    ok..back to normal programming

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