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    Smile Hey :) I'm New Here

    Hi
    I'm Angela and I live in North Sydney (formerly of Adelaide). My boyfriend and I have a beautiful 12 y.o. yellow Labrador Retriever named Suzie who we spoil to bits (but she still knows who her pack leaders are).

    I love dogs and have become concerned about animal welfare issues recently (mostly puppy farms, breeding laws etc.)

    I know first hand how bad backyard breeders are as my parents unfortunately are. I haven't lived with them for over a year and really wish that those dogs could live the lives that they deserve. There really need to be improved laws so that puppy farms and backyard breeders can be stopped.

    Thanks for reading and I look forward to contributing to this forum

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    Welcome!
    I have a 12 year old Jack Russell X and a soon to be 9 year old Kelpie X.

    Im so so glad you can recognise that your own parents are doing the wrong thing and not follow their own path.
    What have you done to try and convince them of their errors?
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    I've stopped talking to them now for a variety of reasons (including the breeding) but when I lived with them i'd always tell them how it's bad to let a girl breed on her first season as there is more of a chance of complications (both immediately and further down the track). And i'd told them how she needs a break between litters but they always had some excuse why they "needed" the money (and being Westies it was a lot of money for un vaccinated dogs).

    They really did everything wrong. They never even vaccinated their adults. I'd love to call the council on them (as they have 4 dogs, a breeding pair of Westies and a now retired breeding pair of Maltese Xs) but I feel like the council would brush it off and do nothing.

    I know that the council's law for where they live only allows them to have 2 dogs. Do you think it's worth calling the council on them (as nothing I say could ever change their mind)?

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    Yes I definately think its worth calling the council. Are the dogs registered with the local shire? Possibly you could dob them in for that as well.
    Im not sure if the RSPCA could do anything..

    I could lecture you with all the problems with what they're doing, but im sure you already know, and there isn't much you can say to stubborn parents(I would know, I had big dramas trying to convince them Pit Bulls are what you make them).

    You could suggest bringing them onto the forum?
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    Hi and welcome Miss Tea Addict

    I still live in Adelaide and if I knew my neighbours were doing what your parents are doing I'd call the council too.

    I have one occasional friend from sport. It's hard to be her friend because she smokes in her car and house even when her daughter is there, her whole house is filthy - way over my grot level. I can't handle having dinner at her place when she's constantly having to get the cat off the food prep surfaces.

    And she bred a litter of puppies with her bitch and a neighbour's dog by way of educating her daughter. She found homes for all of them but I don't know if they were good homes. I don't think any puppies would have been desexed or vaccinated first though she might have suggested that to the people that bought the dogs.

    She's a very gifted and intelligent person (uni graduated self employed engineer)and yet she can do this. It messes with my head.

    However unlike your parents, she only ever planned for her bitch to have one litter of puppies, it was never about making money or having loads of puppies for her.

    Something straight forward for council to enforce like too many dogs, unregistered dogs, councils are going to send someone round to have a look and write the order. Whether they will go all the way to court to try to get it enforced is less likely, but the RSPCA might.

    It's a lot easier for council to do something about that than deal with barking dogs who only bark sometimes etc.

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    Thanks for all the suggestions. I think that 2 of their dogs (the Westies) may have been registered or may still be but the 2 Maltese Xs aren't. I think I should finally call the council next week and at least tip them off to what they are doing in regards to having more dogs than allowed, possibly not being registered and the unregistered breeding.

    The dogs are adequately cared for (in terms of food and grooming every couple of months) even though they aren't up to date with their vaccinations so I don't think the RSPCA could do much.

    It is amazing how some people that appear respectable on the surface can act that way, Hyacinth. So many people that i've met have this idea that it's good to let their girl have one littler before having her desexed. Even if it was slightly better for her health wise (which I think is debatable) it's terrible as you just don't know what will happen to those dogs, not to mention how she would react if someone brought a puppy back saying that they were ill.

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    Welcome

    What a horrible situation with your parents. Hopefully the council can do something to help the dogs out.

    I'm sure you'll find plenty of useful information and support here on the forum!

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    Hi and Welcome.
    I really dislike your parents right now for what they are doing however it's not against the law to breed dogs and not vaccinate. Unethical yes, illegal no.
    RSPCA wont be interested, council will if they are unregistered and if they don't have a permit for owning extra dogs.

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    Thanks I hope the council can do something too (will call them first thing Monday - it's time to take action and do something to stop them).

    lol, i'm sure you wouldn't be the only one who dislikes them and what they do Molly. I hope that sometime in the future it will be against the law to breed dogs unless you are a registered breeder who is checked to make sure that dogs are raised properly and vaccinated before they're sold.

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    I e-mailed the NSW RSPCA saying this..

    Hi,

    I was just wondering if there was anything the RSPCA or I could do about a backyard breeder?

    I know someone, who knows someone who is breeding Westies on their first heat, and every heat. They aren’t registered, and aren’t health testing. They are purely doing it for the money, as this is what they’ve said.

    Is there anything we can do about it? The animals are in good condition, but what they’re doing has got to be cruelty.

    Thanks,

    Mif


    They replied with..

    Good Morning,

    In regards to backyard breeders, it is not illegal to breed it is how they are kept, for example, if they are kept in cages that are too small, or in dirty and disgusting living condition, or the dogs welfare is in jeopardy. The RSPCA Inspectors would certainly pay a visit if any breeder breaches these conditions.

    If you feel the RSPCA needs to visit this breeder, please supply her exact address and email it in or phone the call centre on, 9770 7555.

    For the RSPCA to act on any cruelty complaint we do need you to supply your full name, address and telephone number. These details are not released, it is against the law for the Inspectors to divulge any of your details.

    Regards

    Cherie Rose

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    SYDNEY
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