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    Hey,

    Im steve from Adelaide. i purchased a little border collie x staffy yesterday arvo, i had her (Gypsy) home for less then 2 hours and she started vomitting quite bad so i took to her to the vet where she had to spend the night..off to a great start!! I recieved a phone call saying she is all good to come home so im looking forward to having her home for the first night.

    Ive done some research on toliet training and but was wondering if anyone had any tips that they have tried and found to work really well. Im also very interested in taking her to puppy classes but dont know how long i should wait??? she is 9 weeks old. ill take some pics tonight and put them up.

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    Congrats on Gypsy.

    Hopefully she feels better and it was nothing serious.

    Socialising your dog is a fantastic idea and puppy school is the best place to start. Your local vet should have an idea where the school's are run. They may even run a class themselves.

    Good luck and enjoy the great times ahead!!

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    Steve

    You sure have picked a handful for your first dog. Staffordshire Bull Terriers and Border Collies are both very energetic dogs that demand a lot of attention and need a lot of training to keep them out of trouble (eg excavating your backyard or attacking other dogs or people or animals). Although given where you got it from - it might be something else entirely.

    You have also demonstrated why people should avoid buying puppies from petshops. The puppy was sick. The pet shop was no help.

    There are lots of reasons for puppies to be sick in this situation from the stress of the new environment, different food in the new environment, to being poorly cared for in the pet shop or puppy mill or back yard that it came from.

    Hopefully the vet is educating you on basic puppy care? Ie what to feed a puppy that has had an upset stomach (eg boiled chicken and rice). About followup vaccinations and worming that needs doing and how long you should keep your puppy away from other dogs that haven't been vaccinated - eg two weeks after the last (booster) shot. And about flea spot ons or flea control.

    The RSPCA and AWL and most responsible breeders provide a puppy information pack which includes a list of recommended puppy pre-schools for your puppy's socialisation and your training eg Glenside vet does puppy preschool as does the vet at Colonel Light Gardens or you can ask them or AWL/RSPCA to recommend one in your area. You need it as much if not more than your puppy. And they won't tell you off for buying from a pet shop - I promise.

    And then you want to find a place that does basic manners or obedience training for your dog. Or you can watch the Ian Dunbar dog training videos on the Dog Star Daily website.

    Digital Dog Training Textbook | Dog Star Daily

    You might look at these for puppy training ideas.

    I wish I'd done Triangle of Temptation and NILIF (nothing in life is free) with my dog when she was very young.
    TOT
    Triangle of Temptation

    NILIF
    NILIF, the way ALL dogs should be raised

    and for a bit more brain work and fun, you might want to explore clicker training especially "free shaping".
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    Welcome fellow Adelaidian.

    Hyacinth is right, both breeds are very energetic dogs and require HEAPS of excercise and attention. I'm so sorry that she wasn't feeling well. If the vet says it's okay to bring her home then I would think it's not that serious. She may (though I am certainly not an expert, please do not take my word for it) have had a case of nerves, or car sickness.

    If you did purchase her from a petshop, be extremely careful. I had a puppy from a petshop a while back and they didn't warn me about a lot of things when bringing him home. He became very sick and I spent over $900 EXTRA on vet care within 4 weeks of him coming home!

    Thankfully, you had the time and right idea taking her straight to the vet. In regards to puppy classes, depending on where in Adelaide you are; the Pet Doctor clinic on Woodville road runs their own puppy/socialization classes. (It's across from the QEH.) and behind the QEH is also obediance classes run by the same vet. But as I mentioned, it depends on where you are in the metro area. You may be able to find one closer to you.

    Welcome again, and congratulations on your new Gypsy! I would love to see pictures when you grab some.

    Hyacinth had a GREAT selection of websites and reference tips, but if you would like anymore help, please don't hesitate to ask! Unless it's a serious medical emergency, then I recommened taking her to the vet.

    Which poses the question: do we have a list somewhere where people can check for "warning" signs of sickness and when to contact a vet? It could be helpful for newer dog owners who may panic at the first sign of something new in their dog's actions or behavior. (I'm still prone to that myself!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ori View Post
    Which poses the question: do we have a list somewhere where people can check for "warning" signs of sickness and when to contact a vet? It could be helpful for newer dog owners who may panic at the first sign of something new in their dog's actions or behavior. (I'm still prone to that myself!)
    I have had dogs for 25 years and I always go on alert when I notice something not quite right. My mantra is when in any doubt phone the vet.

    Different dogs have different levels of pain tolerance and reactions that you need to come to recognise in your own dog, some dogs hide things very well. Things can escalate very quickly.

    If one of mine goes off its food I am on full alert because they love their food, I know there is a potential problem and start watching their bodily functions like a hawk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalacreek View Post
    I have had dogs for 25 years and I always go on alert when I notice something not quite right. My mantra is when in any doubt phone the vet.

    Different dogs have different levels of pain tolerance and reactions that you need to come to recognise in your own dog, some dogs hide things very well. Things can escalate very quickly.

    If one of mine goes off its food I am on full alert because they love their food, I know there is a potential problem and start watching their bodily functions like a hawk.
    I'm not a new dog owner myself, I've been around and had dogs all my life, I'm just a natural hypochondriac. When Ori is sick, he becomes more lethargic than usual. Which sometimes is difficult to spot - he's incrediably lazy! Or he won't jump up on the bed etc. If he does one thing different that bothers me, I'm off to the vet straight away. Most times I'm being told I'm paranoid, but when I see real problems, I trust my instincts and they've always been correct.

    The trouble is, when you own a new dog (especially your first one) it can take a while for you to get to know your puppy's (or dog's) reactions to sickness or pain before you can notice something. There's always the initial "keep an eye on" signs that some people will notice more than others and caught early enough, it might be able to deter further symptoms before they realize. If a dog is usually playful or energetic and there's a day or two oif just slumping around, some people won't really be able to notice it until the dog has been with them long enough to notice the "normal" behavior.

    I hope that made sense. I do agree with you though. Dogs hide illness and injury well by natural instinct. Some very well more than others, so it's important to know your dog's personality in case the symptoms aren't as noticable as throwing up.

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    Hey,

    Thanks to everyone for the helpful tips. Yeah the vet said it may have just been a case of nerves and they gave me half a can of "Sensitive" chicken and rice and i also bought one, she love it so im happy.

    She has already shown how energetic she can be, i managed only 4 hrs sleep on sat night...she was certainly in no mood for sleep. ive discovered she has already found her vocal cords as well, i tried to put her to sleep in the laundary room but she wouldnt have a bar of it. she ended up sleeping on top of me on the lounge. My nieghbour was kind enough to loan me their old dog pen that they used for their pup. It seemed to work really well but when i woke up this morning i found she had jumped out of it. not to sure what ill try for tonight.

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    Oh my, Steve. She is adorable! I'm so glad she's feeling better and it was just nerves. It's quite common in young puppies when they first come home.

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    Steve

    I think you may need to invest in a steel dog crate. And do some web research on how to crate train your puppy.

    for starters though you could set it up next to your bed and put her in it.

    But until she's about 12 to 18 weeks old you will still need to let her out for toilet break in the middle of the night.

    Pet stock and Olivers (I think) have the crates. The one my brother got for his Staffy which is plenty big enough for my ACDx was 93cm deep x 70cm high x 64cm wide. He got it for his staffy when she broke her leg jumping off something she shouldn't when she was a puppy. Don't get a soft sided crate for this - the dog can eat her way out of it.

    Also you might want to be looking at getting your puppy desexed. Any time on from 8 weeks - it can be done if you find the right vet - the one at Animal Welfare League will do it. Some vets advocate waiting until the puppy is six months old but you can risk a heat and a pregnancy if you wait that long, as several others have found out. There is also a birth control pill for female dogs if you want to stop her from going into heat.

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