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    Quote Originally Posted by bernie View Post
    yep, loadsa folks hate prong collars here, be careful.
    Ive used them and they work well, its another tool that can be well used, or badly used
    Hey Bernie, nice to e-met you! ha

    thanks for the warning. I dont want to cause a stink or offend anyone with my sig so I can remove it - Im new & i dont want everyone to hate me! But yeah, in my experience the prong collar has been awesome & I know of a lot of other people who feel ther same way
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    So you have a staffy (a small dog)...you say you need a prong collar to control it. You also say you've tried everything...well I doubt that very much...a simple head collar would have solved this problem.

    Sounds like you've never been to obedience training either...because it you had you would know that these pronged collars and banned and that's every dog club...for a very good bloody reason.

    Hyacinth...why do you allow this person to promote and provide a link to a product like this...what next a large piece of wood to hit the dog if it jumps up on you.
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    Hello Dogman,

    I am not here to fight nor talk about dog collars the whole time so I can quite easily take the sig down - doesnt bother me. However, you have no idea of my background so your attack is a little unfair & indeed quite incorrect. Nor did I say I use a prong collar to control my dog. We use it for walking it's great. No pulling, no choking & the dog has no problem with it either.

    But i suppose you know whats best right? anyway, Ive removed the sig and hopefully now moving on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    OMG something to read in front of the telly... ooh so much fun here (where's Riley)

    HaHaHa !


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    Hi 'Combus' and to the forum !

    Also, I have to admit that I am not a fan of prong collars. I do see that they can have a place in a ‘pup training toolbox’ – with the proviso that the person using it is experienced, knowledgeable and not harsh with the use of it.

    I really thought they were a tool to teach – not to be used forever as a normal run-around type collar ?

    Anyway – not to disappoint ‘Hyacinth' – some reading for you 'Combus' !

    Here are some links that may help you with loose lead walking. Practise, practise and practise – very short times to start off with, with lots of treats and praise - then build up the time.

    https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...+leash+walking

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    Would love to see a photo of your pup - please !

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    Combus

    Guaranteed you're going to cause a stink with that sig.

    We've got someone in another thread that has managed to suppress two of their dog's warning signals with punishment so it now bites without warning (well no warning the owner notices)... Imagine how fast someone who doesn't know what they're doing can do that with a prong collar.

    Dogman

    I don't like the sig. I guess it does break the rules given it's not the poster's product and it's not Australian.

    reason I didn't dump it immediately - is scolding and punishment doesn't work as well as encouraging and rewarding the right choice. We have to remember to apply that to humans as well as dogs.

    Looks Like I might need to edit a couple of posts manually cos the sig doesn't update across all the posts. Weird. I guess. It used to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Combus View Post
    Hello Dogman,

    I am not here to fight nor talk about dog collars the whole time so I can quite easily take the sig down - doesnt bother me. However, you have no idea of my background so your attack is a little unfair & indeed quite incorrect. Nor did I say I use a prong collar to control my dog. We use it for walking it's great. No pulling, no choking & the dog has no problem with it either.

    But i suppose you know whats best right? anyway, Ive removed the sig and hopefully now moving on
    Watch this you might learn something...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbn7yUFBF_8

    These staffys don't need pronged collars...as it's all to do with the owner...not the dog and yes I do know what's best.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0uwnWpk8Hc
    Chloe & Zorro
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    I dunno, dogman

    That first video - she's got the smartest most biddable breed in the world for training - SBT aren't so keen to pay attention.

    And the second one - for me there's not a lot of difference between a slip chain collar with no limit to the choke and a prong collar. In fact the prong collar - is more like a limited slip - tho I'm pretty sure when it does get pressure - it's bloody painful and maybe a bit scary.

    The first one - she'd get better results if she rewarded sit in position ie sit at her side instead of rewarding the herding instinct of a BC to cut the owner off in front and trip them up.

    And the way I re-trained it was using something that Susan Garrett calls "the reinforcement zone" or RZ for short. Heaps and heaps of treats for the dog being at your side. You take a step and say "go" (or your release word of choice) - puppy is going to go to the place of many treats. So you can get super fancy heel work where the dog is stuck to your leg cos that's where all the good stuff is.

    Which kind of back fired on me this morning cos super dog went for a swim and then came over for some RZ work - cold wet soggy dog stuck to my leg. Urk.

    This video shows a bit of it. Notice the lead for control if needed, and working in a relatively low distraction environment. How much quicker that border collie pup would have learned in the new distracting place - if it knew what the job was from learning in a low distraction place.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je0izSyeuVc

    Combus - you say you don't use the prong collar to control your dog but what happens when you take your dog for a walk in a different kind of collar eg a flat collar or a limited slip martingale?
    http://www.blackdog.net.au/dog-colla...vy-duty-medium
    Last edited by Hyacinth; 09-13-2015 at 09:52 PM.

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    well, like i said, the prong collar would get some folks dander up, and i see it has.
    How respectful that combus immediately removed the offending sig < not sure what that is, but apparently he had one with some mention of a prong, and now he doesnt! So thankyou, Combus for acquiescing in order to fit in with 'us'. That demo's flexibility to me. Lets see if we can afford the same courtesy.

    Thanks everyone for some links on this stuff.
    I am currently awaiting a pup, and its been 6yrs, ive forgotten so much. So its good revision for me.
    Im scratching my head over, how the heck did we get from nut bag GSD land shark, to does all he's asked?
    yep, time to re watch those videos.

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