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    Quote Originally Posted by Oskar's mum View Post
    Who cares? The dogs eat it, they enjoy it.
    The way I look at it is this; I dont know what is in it, and just because they eat it and enjoy it doesn't mean it is good for them. Like Maccas or any other fast food (or sugar!!)- most of us eat it and enjoy it, but is it good for us? I guess the process of cooking, rendering, spinning the fat off the top, boiling and drying makes it possible that there is anything in there. Personally, I'd rather avoid that.

    Prior to V&F I had dogs who were fed supermarket food, kibble etc. It was only when I lost my Irish Wolfhound at age 5 to bone cancer, then bought Villain on a contract which stipulated raw feeding did I start to read and think about what I was feeding my animals. Then I started to get quite scared by what I was reading.

    Sure, my previous animals have been happy and healthy, but when I compare then to V&F there is no comparison. I can quite honestly say I didn't know how much healthier and happier pets fed on fresh, biologically appropriate foods could be. V&F are testament to that- and for me it is a direct comparison with previous pets. And an eye opener at that.

    I also think that if the message about humans being healthier and immunologically stronger on fresh diets is true- then why not the same for our pets? No, raw feeding isnt for everyone, it is much more complicated than "throwing the dog a bone"... but if we even reduce the "fast food" intake of our pets by just a little here and there, might we not reap the benefits?

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    Throughout that article is says "may be added" May be included" etc. There is no proof that the practice is carried out.

    As for meat meal, take a look at any wild life doco and what do the wild meat eaters eat first - guts, lungs, livers, kidneys. The meat is last.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Villain & Flirtt View Post
    The way I look at it is this; I dont know what is in it, and just because they eat it and enjoy it doesn't mean it is good for them. Like Maccas or any other fast food (or sugar!!)- most of us eat it and enjoy it, but is it good for us? I guess the process of cooking, rendering, spinning the fat off the top, boiling and drying makes it possible that there is anything in there. Personally, I'd rather avoid that.

    Prior to V&F I had dogs who were fed supermarket food, kibble etc. It was only when I lost my Irish Wolfhound at age 5 to bone cancer, then bought Villain on a contract which stipulated raw feeding did I start to read and think about what I was feeding my animals. Then I started to get quite scared by what I was reading.

    Sure, my previous animals have been happy and healthy, but when I compare then to V&F there is no comparison. I can quite honestly say I didn't know how much healthier and happier pets fed on fresh, biologically appropriate foods could be. V&F are testament to that- and for me it is a direct comparison with previous pets. And an eye opener at that.

    I also think that if the message about humans being healthier and immunologically stronger on fresh diets is true- then why not the same for our pets? No, raw feeding isnt for everyone, it is much more complicated than "throwing the dog a bone"... but if we even reduce the "fast food" intake of our pets by just a little here and there, might we not reap the benefits?
    I do not doubt at all that raw or home made food is way healthier for pets. But I object to using scaremongering tactics to try to convince people to not feed their pets commercial pet food. I'm just allergic to propaganda...

    It took me ages to switch from processed food to raw food because I was worried I wouldn't be able to get the balance right, I liked the convenience of tins in the pantry, and I thought dealing with raw meat would be way too much of a hassle. Until I tried it and it turned out to be easy. But only because I do rely on a supplement, feed mainly mince and still feed a little bit of dry food too. But I do believe that is a huge improvement and I do hope that more and more people on the forum will give it a go and discover its benefits (and the joys: for some reason I really enjoy feeding my pets raw meat!). But lets not insult their intelligence with stories about eating babies.

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    I agree with Villain & Flirtt and I don't feel that there using scaremongering tactics, there just giving there opinion on what they feel is best for there dogs. I'm a raw feeder and believe it's the best for my dog.
    Each to there own you choose what works best for you.

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    Best to research any commercial dog food one buys.
    Its all man made.
    So honestly who really knows what goes in commercial dog food.
    Just go with nature.
    Raw meat and bones.

    Info I posted is from here: https://www.hare-today.com/feed.php

    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amstaffy4pal View Post
    I agree with Villain & Flirtt and I don't feel that there using scaremongering tactics, there just giving there opinion on what they feel is best for there dogs. I'm a raw feeder and believe it's the best for my dog.
    Each to there own you choose what works best for you.
    Thanks Amstaffy4pal *grin*... But I don't think Beloz is referring to my post when she speaks of scaremongering- its more a comment on the thread, and specifically the OP's assertions.

    That said, a bit of fear was what motivated me in the first place. I'm sure not everyone out there is as thick as I can be... And probably don't require a kick up the butt for motivation.

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    Beloz - My post wasn't aimed directly at you. More so at Choppa and OM actually.

    OM - really? So do you kids eat lollies and enjoy it? Maccas? Hungry Jacks? Pizza Hut? KFC? Would you solely feed your children based on what they ate and enjoyed? Doubt it. What a shocking attitude to have towards your dogs health.

    It was clearly stated that a Government body has found traces of the euthanasia drug in pet food. How do you think that gets in there? Did someone just chuck it in for fun? No it is much more likely that it comes from the rendered fat from euthanised animals.

    Euthanised animals aside, the things they put in dry food aside from by products etc such as corn, beet pulp, grains, preservatives, added salt and colours are no good for our animals either, based on that alone I would not feed dry food to my dogs.

    As I said, I am just stating what I know as fact, anyone on the forum is welcome to take it or leave it at there own discretion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keira & Phoenix View Post
    It was clearly stated that a Government body has found traces of the euthanasia drug in pet food. How do you think that gets in there? Did someone just chuck it in for fun? No it is much more likely that it comes from the rendered fat from euthanised animals.

    As I said, I am just stating what I know as fact, anyone on the forum is welcome to take it or leave it at there own discretion.
    I missed that euthanasia drug reference. I suppose that would count as evidence that it does happen. But I still would like more detail on which brands, which countries, etc. It is quite ridiculous that there is so little regulation regarding pet food and it would be fantastic if that could be changed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Keira & Phoenix View Post
    Euthanised animals aside, the things they put in dry food aside from by products etc such as corn, beet pulp, grains, preservatives, added salt and colours are no good for our animals either, based on that alone I would not feed dry food to my dogs.
    Exactly! And that is my main reason for switching. Though I really don't feel bad about buying dry food to give my dog a handful now and then. However, after this discussion, I will check to make sure I only buy dry food that does not list meat meal or meat by-products in their ingredients.

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    I am so disgusted hearing what crap they put in dog food. I am so glad I made the change now. Thanks for the info. Thats just sad.

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    What about how chicken nuggets are made ? Millions of $s to the fast food people !

    Chicken Nuggets: Is That How They're Made? A GOOD Fact Check - Lifestyle - GOOD

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