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    Hi,
    We have an English Mastiff pure bread bitch she is turning 4 in a month's time, she is 76kg which is a little overweight but there is a reason for that. 12 months ago nearly to the day she tore her cruciate ligament on her left rear leg we took her to our local vet (north Brisbane) and they advised she would need a operation to fixe the problem, although they hadn't performed this operation on such a big dog before they where more than confident to carry out the percedure, so we put our trust in them and gave the go ahead for the operation which was a TTA, at a cost of $3000. The recovery was long and still she is not 100% she has walked with a slight limp and if exercised too much she could hardly put her foot to the ground.
    So 12 months on in our back yard on Friday night she heard something, she ran and turned sharply and her right rear cruciate has gone (gutted), back to vets, X-rays and examination we are now facing another operation, but this time the leg she was operated on 12 months ago is also not 100% so we are having to help her with a towel under her tummy.
    The Vets have informed me the procedure they want to carry out this time was a TTO because they think the recovery will be a bit quicker compared to the TTA but the outcome will be the same, and the cost of this will be about $3500 plus the xrays and consultation we have already had at $450.

    So I guess the question's we are asking is, has anyone gone through similar procedures one side going then the other, if so any information that would be helpful please share.

    Does TTO heal quicker and is it stronger than TTA?

    Does the price sound about right, they seem very genuine but you never know?

    Any information would be greatly appreciated she is treated like one of the children and we are devastated of what has happened, she is a beautiful dog and doesn't deserve this.

    Kind regard's

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    I had a TPLO done on my newfie just 13 weeks ago........She is as sound as a bell at present. She walked from the day she walked out of the Vet Surgery after one overnight stay. We were very strict with her Post op physio and exercises. We followed a program to the letter. I am very pleased with the result. We went to a Ortho Vet...slightly more expensive but he does many of them and many dogs go back to their training, agility and such and in my case Water Rescue. Katy has just been allowed total freedom, which you can see in a recent post of mine. So Katy has a plate with 8 screws, especially for giants

    I have a few newfie friends in the USA, who tell me the TPLO is better and quicker healing thus better for when the 2nd cruciate goes. I am on a newfie Forum and we discuss this all the time.

    Link to TPLO description TPLO | Surgery - Pet Emergency & Specialist Centre - Animal Emergency, Animal Medicine, Animal Surgery, Veterinary Specialist, - Vet Emergency, Cruciate Ligament, Fracture Repair






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    This is very sad that this has happened to your pup.

    Are you able or want to get a second opinion before your pup undergoes a second operation ?

    Years ago a family member had a rottie with these sorts of problems - and the best place we found was the Queensland University Vet Clinic. The clinic had all the best equipment and all the specialists that were suggested at that time for us to see were involved with the clinic. This is just a suggestion for you.

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    In the link I gave you there is a PDF file link, in the last paragraph and also one in the second last open them and save them...They are extremely detailed about cruciate ligament injuries and might help you decide what to do.....I hope this helps. I know from personal experience that you need to know as much as possible yourself, before talking to the vets.I was nearly talked into having it done locally, but another vet pulled me to the side and suggested the Ortho vet. Good luck......
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    Thanks for the replies, the local vet want's to operate on Friday so we have a few days to decide what to do, does anybody know of a good ortho vet in the Brisbane area so we can speak to them?
    We will also speak to the univercity in the morning.

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    rjohnstone2 - the Uni Vet Clinic has all the specialists there or on call - because remember it is also a vet teaching clinic for all of their vet students.

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    Always get a second opinion........You can never undo something once done
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    RJohnstone2, tough luck friend, but yes it is very common if one cruciate goes the other will as well.

    You need to tell your vet you do not want a TTO, you want a TPLO and you need to ask for a referal to Dr Geoff Robins.

    Geoff is a freelance ortho surgeon who works North Brisbane, working out of various practices. He is also a lot less expensive than any vet as he does not have the infrastructure to pay for.

    Rehab after the op is essential. Once the op has cleaned up and stitches removed you need to get into a rehab program and because there is nobody else north side I have to suggest my wife at Canine Fitness Centre

    Hydrotherapy is going to build muscle around both joints and that is essential for long term maintainence of both knees.
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