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    Quote Originally Posted by Nev Allen View Post
    One thing you need to remember and that is a dog is for life. It is not a toy that you can take into your life and then leave behind when you go to uni. YOu are staying at home at the moment and that could change somewhere along the line. Will your new circumstances have room for a dog.

    You are talking about some big strong dogs that will require intensive training on a permanent ongoing basis. Are you in a position to say that without fail, I will go to obedience/agility/flyball etc tonight instead of going out with Mr Handsome over there.

    You are also all along talking about the dog YOU want. What input is your mother going to have. After all she is the one who is going to house and look after him whilst you are at school. Has she the strength to control a Rotti, or a GSD , or GSP, or a Staffy?

    I too believe, reading between the lines, you are too young to take on the responsiblity of dog ownership. If you really insist on having a dog now, then buy your mother a Maltese or a Silky and help her look after it. Let it be her dog so that when you leave home it will not be "left behind". And don't make the mistake of thinking that just because it is a small white fluffy thing, it cannot do obedience or agility.

    On the research side, you do not need a computer. There is a library full of books on dogs. YOu could find out where and when dog clubs in your area meet and go along to see what dogs they have and talk to the owners. Dog people love talking about their dogs.
    I know what you mean,but Ive always had this one thing where i love muscular looking dogs over fluffy dogs. Its always been like that and i know it wont change, its just me and how i like dogs looks. Also I cant think of any muscular dogs at the top of my head that arent massive apart from a SBT. Thats way im leaning towards a staffy

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    I dont want to sound rude but 16 year olds should not own dogs nor have kids. They can help raise a dog and babysit kids though.
    I understand you like dogs but you are so young and so many things in your life are about to change in a couple of years. The dog will limit you so much with what you will be able to do. Please do what a previous poster said and buy your mum a dog so the dog has stability when it is your time to fly out of the nest. You are very young, it is reflected with how you make decisions (asking a bunch of strangers to do your dog research when you should be doing your own and coming here for advice only).
    Please understand things might look different in a few years and the dog will have to go through that.

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    Sorry, I am with everyone else.

    I dont think you are ready. The dogs you listed are all quite different temperament wise. I think if you are adamant about getting a dog, and you are going to be responsible for it (with your parents blessing) then you are probably best to adopt a slightly older dog from a shelter so you can learn about owning a dog with one that is going to be fairly easy.

    For you, I would also recommend a low maintenance dog, i.e. one that doesnt need much exercise (which rules out most of your list). You are almost 16, in the next few years your social life is going to take off and you wont have as much time for a dog...unless you take it everywhere.

    I got my first *MY* dog when I was 17, and she went everywhere with me. Parties and everything. The onyl time she wasnt with me, was when I went to work for 4 hours each night. But thats not an ideal situation for someone of that age to be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFabiani View Post
    Honestly, i wasnt financially paying for it because i was the one that still young, if that makes sence lol.But as i got older around 10 yrs i was the only one who played, socialised, fed, changed her water, wash her, Buy her toys and everything. But now im get money to do things, And im 100% commited to putting all my money towards this dog. I have been nagging and nagging for a SBT since i was 13 litterally. And now im almost 16, Im in a good position where i can can a dog. For me and my mother. She wouldnt put any money towards it, so its all on me, Ive worked out the costs and i can safely say i can do this. Especially if i adopt from the lost dogs home in melbourne. The dog wouldnt need any vet vaccines and everything for a long time
    I don't know if anyone has done it yet... but I will outline the general costs for my dogs:

    Monthly worming/heartworm/flea - I normally buy in bulk which for the size dog (SBT) will be (roughly) $60 for worming and heartworm (pack of 6 which lasts 6 months) and flea control around $60 or $70 for comfortis (pack of 6 which lasts 6 months).
    Food - I buy one bag of kibble between two dogs a once a month which is around $120 a bag. I also buy treats and pet mince weekly as well as bones.
    Toys - Probably spend around $50ish a month
    vaccinations - yearly are around $80 - $90 bucks.

    You also need to take into consideration ongoing training expense and emergency vet fees. Will you be able to spare say $500.00 if it were to save your dogs life?

    Stafforshire Bull Terriers are expert escapee's as well, Bella can jump a standard 1.3m high fence. Do you have very secure fencing? Will you be able to afford kennel fee's if you wanted to go away on a holiday. What would you do with your dog if you even wanted to go away for two nights in a row? SBT's also need to be around their people, will the dog be able to live inside?

    There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face.

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    I agree what everyone has mentioned. It's getting increasingly harder to even have a dog allowed in rentals. I only asked about a dog, after I had lived in my current house for 3 years. Originally it was a no pets allowed rental. And now you aren't even sure what breed you want. I haven't changed my mind, I still think it is great that you are enthusiastic, but maybe wait a bit longer, a couple of years until you are set up.

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    I'm really glad you're here, asking questions, finding out how to get your answers, and getting some answers and handling our suggestions politely. Well done.

    The dog wouldnt need any vet vaccines and everything for a long time
    I guess a year is a long time to a 16yo

    This is how Frosty costed out approximately:
    adoption with a lead, dog bowl and dog food was around $400
    (she ate the first three leads I got her)

    Frosty's first year home with me was the most expensive. She was a 10 week old puppy when I got her. Still needed two booster vax shot, and I opted for the annual wormer shot... so that was several hundred bucks within the first month of owning her.

    flea treatment and intestinal wormer about $160 per year

    Puppy school $60
    Dog Club $70
    toys and stuff $100
    dry dog food $30 per month roughly.
    treats $20 per month roughly

    And then she ate some strapping tape $100 at the vet to get it out.

    And then some cooked chicken bones $50 (used a cheaper method for getting her to up chuck)

    And then some more contraband $50

    and she got the runs $150 for vet check up, medicine and a long weekend boarding at the vet - they always time this stuff to be at the most inconvenient time. She was supposed to go to my brother's place but I didn't want to burden my sister in law with three times a day medicine doses. At one point she was getting the runs every couple of weeks and then I changed the dry dog food and it was all good from there.

    And there were assorted other things to do with her that cost me money. Eg car harness, council rego (we get discounts for dog that is desexed, and trained and microchipped)

    You add all that and it's nearly $2000 in the first year and that's not a complete list. You might save a bit on cheaper dog food but it won't put much of a dent in the vet bills.

    Each of the breeds you like, have clubs where you can go meet their dogs. Each breeder has dogs that are slightly different in temperament and shape to the next - you really need to go meet them. Most of the club websites have breed descriptions and ANKC has all the breed standards that answer your questions. Google is your friend.

    If you get a dog from lost dogs home - it doesn't matter what the breed is supposed to be like - you might not get it. Almost all of the dogs there will not have papers or not have been bred to any standard, from doggy parents not bred to any standard. Because the pedigree dogs usually go back to their breeder or breed rescue (yes the breed clubs have breed specific rescues) not the pound if something goes wrong.

    At the rescues/shelters, you have to pick based on what is in front of you. Is the dog friendly? do they want to play with you (so you can train them), do they like other dogs (important or it's hard to take them fo walks)?

    At the lost dogs home or other rescues, the prices won't be based on breed either. It will be one price for young puppies and another for adult dogs.

    And don't forget PetRescue - find your new best friend!

    And just to confuse you, whippets and greyhounds can look very muscley - but they don't make great guard dogs either. Personally, looks are not why I pick a breed.

    For your mother's sake I think an SBT is a good choice for you at the moment. Because it's a little bit smaller and less demanding than the other dogs.

    If you give a dog a lot of exercise - you get a really fit dog. But the fitter the dog, the harder it is to tire out. You can balance this out with *training* which wears them out more (similar to studying for exams but more fun if you use reward based methods).

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    Lol ooh I didn't mention all the costs. I don't want to even think about how much in total I have spent on both of them since I have had them. Harley's first year would have been $3000.00 or so including the $550.00 to purchase him.

    RFabiani do you have a job?

    There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face.

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    I have only had to take Banjo to the vet once this first year (the ringworm medication was ludicrously expensive though) but she cost us quite a bit of money in shoes... I had to buy my daughter 3 new pairs of sandals in the first 6 months I think. Obviously most people older than 6 would be better at remembering to put their shoes out of the dog's reach. But she did manage to haul my boots out of a laundry hamper once and that cost me a bit in repairs too. If she would've destroyed them I would've considered selling her to cover the expense of getting new boots from Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beloz View Post
    I have only had to take Banjo to the vet once this first year (the ringworm medication was ludicrously expensive though) but she cost us quite a bit of money in shoes... I had to buy my daughter 3 new pairs of sandals in the first 6 months I think. Obviously most people older than 6 would be better at remembering to put their shoes out of the dog's reach. But she did manage to haul my boots out of a laundry hamper once and that cost me a bit in repairs too. If she would've destroyed them I would've considered selling her to cover the expense of getting new boots from Europe.
    Yes most people , haha, I have forgotten to move my shoes, and have lost 1 each out of 3 pairs of shoes lol. Oskar has a thing for thongs as well lol.

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    Aaargh, Banjo will only chew off the little plastic round thingy at the bottom of the thong sole that holds the strap in place! I had more understanding for her destructive habit when she chewed up half the shoe. But now she hardly touches them but just enough to render them useless.

    Sorry, RFabiani. I seem to have hijacked your post.

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