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    I agree that the best way to deal with this is to make your dog really good in these situations..how you react will also greatly effect how your dog behaves....If you stay happy and casual, your dog is more likely to be.

    Get you young dog to focus on you and reward....And give the puppy plenty of opportunity to meet lots of friendly dogs, this should have started at 8 weeks as 8-16 weeks is just the best time. But now is better then never

    having gone the whole way with a very Dog aggressive dog, I gave up trying to keep other dogs away from her, so i keep her on lead and I have taught her to handle it.....very heavy on the rewards and also some desensitising and counter conditioning.....The one thing I changed in my counter conditioning was that all Trainers use "leave it", which sounds very severe and i am sure put up my blood pressure. I now use the word "puppy", even if it is a huge Irish Wolfhound. LOL.......And you can only say that word happy, so it has a chill effect. People actually say to me that their dog is not a puppy LOL, how little do they know.
    When I say puppy and my dog looks at me, I give calming signals to her...it makes everything less tense. After that we meet and greet. She now tolerates most dogs, except Dog aggressive dogs, she will just have a go at them given half a chance..it is only my control over her that stops that. Just recently we did have a dog that attacked her, whilst she was on lead, he cam out of nowhere..well she had him down and out in a moment. She might be a newfie, but she is after all a mastiff. She just spat him out when I intervened and the dog ran off.

    It now works as the perfect word for a situation, sounds friendly and your dog has learned the meaning of it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lala View Post
    LOl Pippi is not just a little bit DA...she is completely attack first and dont even bother to ask questions later. No warnings either. The minute she spots another dog, she is in berserk mode. She has never met a puppy since she has grown and I wouldnt want her too. And actually its not just dogs. She is aggressive to every other animal. Gets all obsessed and wants to kill em by the look of her.

    Its bloody embarrassing actually. She flips round on the end of her lead like a bloody yoyo. I am pretty onto it though and usually spot them before her and go round a corner or something lol. I would like to work on it at some stage but its kind of about finding another dog who is completely bomb proof and will not react at all, and finding a place to do it where here wont be loads of other dogs.
    My little 6kg maltese/shihtzu was exactly the same Lala, I had to wear my "seeing glasses" whenever we went out and avoid all situations. I hated it if anyone let their dog run towards us shouting "its ok they're friendly", Duke would get so hysterical, barking, snarling, and people still wouldn't call their dogs back, I always ended up picking him up and thinking back on it, that probably encouraged his anxious nervous nature.

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    I must say that I sometimes wonder where the behaviour of bigger dogs not backing off when little dogs react like that originates. My old dog Luna was always picking fights with dogs similar to her in size. But when a little dog went off at her, she just walked away. In the end she rarely bothered to even approach a small dog anymore. I always thought it was because big dogs see little dogs as puppies and that it was normal for them to be extra permissive with them. Though Luna was actually pretty grumpy and rough with pups until she got to her old age after which she suddenly seemed to love them which was very cute.

    So I always thought it was 'abnormal' for a dog to be aggressive to a much smaller dog and no matter how much the owners say that their dog is friendly, not backing off when another dog gives clear signals that they are angry or scared is kind of aggressive behaviour in my eyes too.

    And to get back to the original topic, I don't think you should be lecturing people about letting their dogs off leash because it's not going to make any difference to them anyway and it's not really your responsibility. But it is extremely rude for someone to let their unleashed dog walk up to a dog on lead, unless they ask for permission first. Unfortunately in lots of cases "my dog is friendly" really means "I have bugger all control over my dog, so you deal with it". Sigh.

    And I'm going to go against the majority and say I think it's ok for a 13yo to walk a dog by themselves. I definitely did when I was a kid - and at a much younger age. Stuff did happen, I learnt to deal with it. As for myself now, I'm probably less strong than a 13yo boy! I cannot break up a dog fight either, unless my loud voice alone is enough...
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    Some great advice on here, and I'm liking the stories, cheers.

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    I don't think big dogs think little dogs are puppies..I think big dogs that do not bother with little dogs have class and cannot be bothered with little shits LOL

    My Katy-Bear tries her hardest with little dogs, she lies down and grovels at them....It seems to work, not many dogs get aggressive toward her, she just has the most sweet social temp. And it is not a breed thing, because they will still go for Lukey or Annabelle.
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    Wanna bring Pippi round and put that theory to the test LMAO.

    Shes just a bitch to be quite honest when it comes to other dogs......

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    LOL..Katy would cope...if Pipi was really aggressive she would just ignore her and leave her alone. if there was an inkling of possibility that she might have a spark of potential friendliness she would just lie there. If a dog is dangerous, Katy would back-up completely. She is great to use to read dogs from a distance

    If your Pipi went for Annabelle, I would have to use my "Puppy" word LOL...And she would ignore her (not really) because she was taught. Lukey just ignores all little dogs

    I use Lukey, Tessa and Katy in Dog Aggressive dog training, they are very reliable. Not Annabelle, I need to protect her from too much of that. There is enough of it in the general community anyway
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    I just worry that the 13 year might blame himself if anything did happen. It's an amstaff, so if it gets into a fight damage is likely to be done. Also, as a child, he's less likely to be able to control his emotions which can affect the dog - especially if the kid is scared as other dogs approach. The dog might also feel protective of the child and step it up a notch. I walked my dog alone though at that age and he was DA too but my old dog was only like 10kg. Lord knows he wanted to do damage but he just didn't really have it in him...

    I too have wondered why Sammy ignores small dogs - he's really interested in puppies so I know it's not that. They can be going completely mental and there's just nothing from Sammy. And I don't think it's me, after what I saw with the akita I was always scared of passing small aggressive dogs, especially when the owners tie them up on leads so long they can reach you anywhere on the footpath. But it's like he's 'sizest' or something. He obviously knows they're dogs because he would be interested in any other small animal - he'd want to hunt it. Very strange.

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    i've only read page 1 so far but my opinion is :

    Socialise your dog so that it isn't reactive to other dogs ... being an Amstaff your dog should be supremely confident and not find it necessary to react to another dog unless that dog is threatening(p.s although i haven't yet known one i believe that some staffies(fighting breeds) will simply never tolerate other dogs)

    yup, the owner of the other dogs that are offlead are at fault but at the end of the day that is a real world situation, you need to learn to deal with it, just like i've had to deal with other uncontrolled mutts at the offlead beach i go to.

    i do have some other comments but they're not really suitable for a public forum(eta : not to do with your dog and its behaviour btw)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mymatejack View Post
    i've only read page 1 so far but my opinion is :

    Socialise your dog so that it isn't reactive to other dogs ... being an Amstaff your dog should be supremely confident and not find it necessary to react to another dog unless that dog is threatening(p.s although i haven't yet known one i believe that some staffies(fighting breeds) will simply never tolerate other dogs)

    yup, the owner of the other dogs that are offlead are at fault but at the end of the day that is a real world situation, you need to learn to deal with it, just like i've had to deal with other uncontrolled mutts at the offlead beach i go to.

    i do have some other comments but they're not really suitable for a public forum(eta : not to do with your dog and its behaviour btw)
    Couldn't agree more. From the breeders I've spoken too and people who've owned the breed for decades they've said the same thing. It doesn't happen with all AmStaffies but you're more likely to have a DA AmStaffy than not, even if it is only slightly DA. Socialise socialise socialise and training, they are the only tips I give anyone with AmStaffies puppies. I made the mistake of slacking off with Harley and he will take a lot of work to fix (when I can find some time to take him back to school). Bella isn't too bad, she doesn't really like dogs smaller than her and any dogs bigger she is fine if they do not try and stand over her or intimidate her, if they do it can on like donkey kong if I don't divert the situation. She also isn't a fan of me touching other dogs when she is around either. She gets very jealous.

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