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    Hey,

    Just wondering what peoples thoughts and attitidues are toward this industry as a whole? Do you support it?

    There are massive profits attached to racing/gambling.

    Racing Greys are most cetainly a disposable commodity if they do not make the grade, or even slip up

    There are an endless numbers of ex racing/not up to scratch Greys surrendered to pounds and shelters across the country to be killed by pound staff.

    Sadly these are the lucky ones...at least they have a tiny chance. Many are inhumanely killed by trainers and owners.

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    I dont have a huge view on it, but I would like to know what Hamish and Andy did with their grey hound 'Fred Basset'...

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    I dont have a huge view on it, but I would like to know what Hamish and Andy did with their grey hound 'Fred Basset'...
    FRED BASSET
    Colour: Black Sex: Dog Whelped: 04 Oct 2004 Sire: AWESOME ASSASSIN Dam: TAYLAH RUTH
    Trainer: Career: 57 Starts. 8-11-13 Prizemoney: $15,650 (Vic only)

    Box statistics - excluding quali racesBox 1 Box 2 Box 3 Box 4 Box 5 Box 6 Box 7 Box 8
    10 3-3-0 9 2-2-3 5 0-2-2 6 0-2-2 10 0-0-3 10 2-1-1 5 0-1-1 2 1-0-1

    Pl Bx Wght Dist Trk Date Time BON M`gin 1st/2nd(Time) 1st Split Comment S/P Grade Hcap
    7 (1) 34.4 332 WBL 12/03/08 19.74 19.04 11.00 Redeye Love (19.04) 7.13 S77 $2.50 X45 .
    2 (3) 34.4 332 WBL 05/03/08 19.50 19.26 2.50 Go Wild Boof (19.34) 6.90 S32,C2 $6.30 X45 .
    4 (1) 34.4 450 BAL 02/01/08 25.94 25.31 1.00 Bonshaw Kid (25.88) 8.67 M222,C1 $2.30 5T .
    4 (2) 34.3 457 GEL 28/12/07 25.86 25.43 5.35 Another Gossip (25.52) 6.82 M443,C1 $4.60 X45 .
    8 (7) 34.1 515 SAN 20/12/07 31.32 29.69 18.25 Elite Currency (30.17) 5.36 M7688 $10.20 5 .
    3 (2) 33.8 440 SLE 09/12/07 25.61 24.96 9.75 Control (24.98) 5.46 M643,C5 $4.10 X45 .
    5 (4) 34.2 450 WBL 05/12/07 26.08 25.44 8.75 Tanner Bale (25.53) 6.63 S565,C4 $3.40 X45 .
    2 (1) 34.4 450 BAL 28/11/07 25.57 25.28 3.00 Rytire (25.38) 8.65 M222 $2.10 5 .
    3 (8) 34.5 457 GEL 23/11/07 25.88 25.58 4.75 Bamboo Assassin (25.58) . C8 $10.10 X45 .
    S . . 515 SAN 06/11/07 . 29.83 . . . M . 5P .
    4 (6) 34.0 457 GEL 02/11/07 25.97 25.75 3.25 Elite Currency (25.75) 6.79 M234 $19.20 F .
    3 (4) 34.0 480 HOR 30/10/07 27.86 27.41 6.25 Uno Power (27.46) 6.49 M223,C2 $9.20 X45 .
    4 (3) 33.6 480 HOR 16/10/07 28.25 27.48 6.75 Jetset (27.81) 6.46 M333,C1 $4.60 5 .
    5 (6) 33.4 525 MEA 10/10/07 31.14 . 13.25 Call Me Tony (30.31) 5.28 S5666,C5 $3.30 5P .
    4 (7) 33.4 525 MEA 06/10/07 30.48 29.98 5.50 Clair Maude (30.12) 5.17 M2222R,C5 $8.20 5 .
    4 (1) 33.4 457 GEL 28/09/07 26.26 25.98 4.50 El Haze (25.98) 7.02 S344,C1 $2.00 X34 .
    2 (2) 33.4 480 HOR 18/09/07 27.41 27.33 1.00 Bar Crusher (27.35) 6.52 M432 $9.00 5F .
    2 (1) 33.4 525 MEA 15/09/07 30.23 29.94 3.50 Trew Millions (30.01) 5.19 M2222,C1 $3.60 5 .
    2 (4) 33.4 480 HOR 11/09/07 27.56 27.44 0.25 Bar Crusher (27.53) 6.48 M211 $6.10 5T .
    7 (5) 33.4 515 SAN 05/09/07 30.95 29.93 12.50 Black Sith (30.15) 5.30 M4656,C7 $8.60 5P .
    7 (4) 33.4 515 SAN 30/08/07 30.77 29.66 16.00 Atlantic Bale (29.75) 5.32 M4566,C6 $12.70 5 .
    1 (1) 33.2 457 GEL 24/08/07 25.65 25.56 0.75 Honky Tonk Daddy (25.70) 6.74 M111 $3.80 F .
    5 (6) 33.2 525 MEA 18/08/07 30.85 30.10 7.75 Something Elite (30.35) 5.21 M3222,C9 $12.80 5T .
    5 (2) 33.0 515 SAN 09/08/07 30.83 29.78 11.35 Articulate (30.12) 5.28 M3553,C6 $3.20 5 .
    2 (2) 32.8 515 SAN 02/08/07 30.03 29.56 0.10 Miracle Trick (30.02) 5.19 M1111 $5.30 5 .
    2 (4) 32.8 515 SAN 26/07/07 30.39 29.61 0.75 So Blessed (30.34) 5.30 S5433,C6 $18.00 5 .
    3 (3) 33.2 515 SAN 19/07/07 30.53 29.83 2.75 Bomber Bugs (30.35) 5.26 M3223,C3 $7.60 5 .
    2 (3) 33.4 515 SAN 12/07/07 30.32 29.66 0.50 Daniel Lee (30.28) 5.32 M2111,C4 $9.90 5 .
    R . . 450 WBL 11/07/07 . 25.50 . . . C4 . X34 .
    S . . 525 MEA 30/06/07 . 30.01 . . . . . 5 .
    6 (6) 33.0 480 HOR 26/06/07 28.39 27.58 10.00 Jericho Bale (27.76) 6.64 M766,C8 $14.80 5 .
    7 (5) 33.6 525 MEA 20/06/07 31.12 29.90 19.25 Borat (29.90) 5.28 M5677 $7.70 5P .
    2 (7) 32.8 525 MEA 16/06/07 30.64 29.86 4.00 Zibibbo (30.38) 5.22 M3332,C1 $10.10 5 .
    F (6) 32.8 515 SAN 07/06/07 . 29.59 0.0F . 5.35 M2888R,C7 $7.80 5 .
    2 (1) 33.4 515 SAN 30/05/07 30.16 29.92 1.50 Dr. Gibson (30.05) 5.14 S1111 $2.00F 5P .
    1 (1) 33.4 457 GEL 25/05/07 25.82 25.47 0.25 Ring Top (25.84) 6.76 M411,C2 $2.80 X45 .
    4 (5) 33.4 457 GEL 18/05/07 26.04 25.71 4.50 Tyra Bale (25.75) 6.95 M54,C4 $5.00 5 .
    4 (5) 33.2 525 MEA 09/05/07 30.85 30.09 5.25 Assassin Advice (30.51) 5.29 S4444,C9 $4.90 5P .
    1 (6) 33.4 450 WBL 02/05/07 25.48 24.82 0.50 Larjulemi (25.53) 6.68 M211,C1 $6.90 5 .
    2 (6) 33.4 450 WBL 25/04/07 25.58 24.99 1.75 Sir Stylish (25.47) . . $8.00 5 .
    7 (7) 33.4 525 MEA 14/04/07 30.96 29.92 13.25 Queen Hayley (30.12) 5.26 M6444,C9 $14.70 5T .
    5 (5) 33.2 515 SAN 29/03/07 30.67 29.75 6.52 Why Not Tayla (30.26) 5.28 S2223,C6 $6.80 5 .
    3 (4) 33.2 515 SAN 22/03/07 30.22 29.79 6.75 Spirit Squad (29.79) 5.33 M3222,C1 $7.60 5 .
    3 (7) 33.4 525 MEA 17/03/07 30.64 30.03 6.50 Sith (30.23) 5.26 S5554 $15.90 5T .
    3 (5) 33.6 457 GEL 09/03/07 26.21 25.91 2.25 Special Jaqui (26.07) 6.94 S533 $5.80 5 .
    3 (2) 33.0 457 GEL 02/03/07 26.12 25.70 3.75 Why Not Gail (25.87) 6.85 M233 $3.00 5T .
    S . . 525 MEA 06/01/07 . 30.11 . . . . . 5 .
    4 (5) 33.0 450 BAL 03/01/07 26.02 25.37 7.25 Didya See Me (25.55) 8.79 S444 $5.50 5 .
    R . . 525 MEA 30/12/06 . 29.63 . . . . . 5 .
    6 (5) 33.0 525 MEA 23/12/06 31.58 29.74 17.00 Cape Ozy (30.50) 5.26 M5766,C5 $7.70 ST .
    3 (2) 33.0 450 BAL 13/12/06 25.70 25.09 4.35 Chief Braveheart (25.42) 8.82 M333 $2.40 5 .
    3 (3) 32.8 457 GEL 08/12/06 25.90 25.74 2.00 Tonka Bale (25.77) 6.85 M223 $2.70 5 .
    3 (5) 32.6 515 SAN 30/11/06 30.47 29.51 5.50 Divided Brothers (30.13) 5.29 M5433,C6 $4.20 5 .
    3 (5) 32.8 525 MEA 25/11/06 30.63 30.06 7.00 Impishlee (30.17) 5.20 M2223,C4 $2.80 5 .
    1 (8) 32.6 457 GEL 20/11/06 25.75 25.75 6.00 Chief Braveheart (26.13) . M111 $1.50 5P .
    4 (6) 32.7 530 CAN 11/11/06 31.40 30.64 2.00 Hot Shot Maddy (31.27) . . 0 O .
    1 (2) 32.6 515 APK 26/10/06 29.85 29.78 0.50 Nitrix (29.89) . . $1.70 5 .
    1 (6) 33.1 520 BGC 19/10/06 30.47 30.15 3.00 Miss Hawkins (30.66) . . $2.50 5 .
    8 (1) 32.8 515 SAN 12/10/06 31.09 29.68 13.75 Casual Lyrics (30.22) 5.23 S3238,C8,Sw $1.80F 5 .
    1 (2) 32.8 450 BAL 27/09/06 25.40 24.93 6.50 Brandeen Sybil (25.81) 8.65 . $1.40 MF .
    1 (1) 33.0 450 BAL 20/09/06 25.56 25.37 10.00 Wild Alarm (26.20) 8.69 . $1.40 MT .
    S . . 520 DTO 07/09/06 . 29.75 . . . . . M .
    3 (6) 32.8 525 MEA 02/08/06 30.77 29.96 3.75 Raiden Bale (30.54) 5.27 . $1.80 MT .





    dont no from then on where it is,,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiemyf7 View Post
    I dont have a huge view on it, but I would like to know what Hamish and Andy did with their grey hound 'Fred Basset'...
    ask em

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    Greyhound racing is steadily going away.
    Years ago, they would have told us that the reason was that the people were getting more educated, but by now, that can’t be said anymore.

    Some enlightened places like the state of Massachusetts have given them two years to stop racing as of July 2009, I think.
    It’s no use expecting any enlightenment here; least of all in New South Wales, where gambling is firmly institutionalised.

    I’ve heard a “complaint” about the end of greyhound racing on the Gold Coast.
    They now have to trek to Brisbane for that.

    Our first adopted greyhound died at the age of 6 from an illness that the merry-go-round of vets, specialists and professors could not put a name to.
    In less than two weeks, a happy, lively dog turned to nothing.
    There was talk or stomach or bowel cancer, then of Crohn’s disease, but we still don’t know.
    A vet told us that greyhounds that had been racing usually only lived to about 8 years.
    Ours sat down on the track during a race, and wouldn’t budge anymore.
    The owner couldn’t take that risk anymore, and put her up for adoption.
    He was quite upset when he found out that she had died.

    Our present greyhound was rescued from the local vet, along with her sister, on a Saturday in November, where they were used as blood donors before PTS on the following Monday.
    The owners were going to be without dwindling racing income over the Christmas period, and couldn’t afford to keep them anymore.

    The same happened again in February, and we got told that somehow, that same vet always managed to land surrendered greyhounds, as if he knew how to take advantage of the situation.


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    I am sorry to hear of the loss of your lovely girl and for what your present babe has been through with her sister.

    They are BEAUTIFUL!! I love their photos.

    I hope and pray that one day soon this magnificent breed will no longer suffer such inhumanity and injustice.

    A friend of mine worked for a facility where they did animal testing. Her job was to look after the animals. A staggering number of exracing Greys were used for testing that were picked up from pounds and trainers. They were all pts afterward.

    It astounds me that as the so called superior race we support an industry responsible for such great loss off life. You would think that we could find more humane forms of entertainment.

    Nic

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    I have no time for the Greyhound racing industry as a whole. There are a few (very few) who seem to genuinely care for their dogs but the vast majority don't care for the hounds at all, only for the money they can make.

    The first dog I ever held for euthanasia was a Greyhound. A soft, sooky, gentle brindle boy who couldn't run fast enough. I've lost count of the many others I held for the last few seconds of their lives.

    Any one who has worked in animal welfare knows there are much worst things than a gentle death but it saddens and angers me that thousands of hounds die every year to keep alive a greedy and IMO pointless and boring sport.

    If Greyhound racing was banned a lot of hounds would die shortly afterwards. However in time only genuine lovers of the breed would continue to produce the odd litter and the future would be much brighter for the breed.

    The history of Greyhound racing is steeped in cruelty and abuse. Not only dogs have suffered but other animals as well. I believe even now some trainers still use live animals to bait their hounds to encourage them to race.

    It's an ugly sport and the sooner it is stamped out, the better.

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    I am not a big fan of the industry. I disagree that only a few owners actually care for their dogs. I worked for a Greyhound Vet for several years and I found the majority loved and cared for the dogs.

    Sadly though, it is an industry based on performance. If a dog doesn't perform then there isn't room for them in a racing kennel. Due to sheer numbers, it is often hard for them to be re-homed.

    This also occurs with breeders of any dog though really, just not in the numbers it does with hounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne View Post
    I am not a big fan of the industry. I disagree that only a few owners actually care for their dogs. I worked for a Greyhound Vet for several years and I found the majority loved and cared for the dogs.

    Sadly though, it is an industry based on performance. If a dog doesn't perform then there isn't room for them in a racing kennel. Due to sheer numbers, it is often hard for them to be re-homed.

    This also occurs with breeders of any dog though really, just not in the numbers it does with hounds.
    I guess it depends on which side you are looking at it from, Anne. In Welfare you see a different side. Certainly I knew one family who had only two dogs still racing and another 5 that were retired family pets. However people like this are few and far between.

    Before there was any organised Greyhound rescue the shelter I originally worked for took in a hell of a lot of slow Greyhounds. A few were desexed and rehomed, the rest died. Those that came to us were the lucky ones.

    There was a family with racing Greyhounds who moved into a house beside the shelter where I worked. Volunteers were exercising dogs in the paddocks when one came rushing to me in tears. She was muttering something about "hanging a dog". I followed her and sure enough one of the Greyhounds had a rope around it's neck and was strangling to death in a tree. The dog's owner was abusing us as we got the dog down. Naturally the police were called but the hound died on the way to the Vet. The case went to court but the owner got off with a slap on the wrist as hanging slow runners was an acceptable method of destruction in the country he came from.

    I have no objection to breeders desexing and rehoming dogs retired from racing, the show ring or whatever. I think it is very responsible and gives the animal a chance to be a loved family pet rather than one of a pack. However the majority of owners simply send the slow runner directly or indirectly (through veterinary training etc.) to their death without even trying to rehome them. There are far too many unwanted Greys for rehoming to be an option for the majority any way.

    I love Greyhounds. My mother adopted a black bitch many years ago and Midnight was a fantastic dog. Two of mum's grandchildren took their first steps holding onto Middy's collar. I still have a mental image of my first Pug Mary at 9 weeks walking over to Midnights dinner bowl and taking a mouthful of her dinner. The Greyhound stood back, tail wagging, waiting for the pup to finish. Mum got Midnight because the trainer said she was a fool and would never race. After a year the original owner wanted her back for breeding as she had a fantastic pedigree. Too late. Midnight had already donated her uterus to the Vet. So she stayed on as a sooky pet for the rest of her life.

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    I don't support the industry at all. However, one bloke and his wife here have 5 greys which used to race. I think one made them a little money but the rest weren't up to scratch. They were retired and now living out their lives, in high style, at their acreage. These 2 really cared. Pity the rest of them weren't like that.
    It is so cruel to use and abuse these beautiful dogs....well, any dog for that matter.
    The more people I meet, the more I like my dogs.

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