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    I wouldnt hit Nikki even if I wanted to..
    If I even raise my voice slightly (when angry not when excited) she cowers
    If I need to tell her off I just say no or ah, works well for her but probably wouldnt for most dogs seeing as i dont change the tone in my voice at all

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    Mine have gotten the occasional smack. I can probably count on my fingers the amount of times it has happened and it only ever happens in extreme circumstances.
    When me and my partner first moved in together I brought Brody with me. Within a few weeks Brody growled at my partner for trying to move him off the bed. Well Brody did get a whack across the bum for it, and yep, it scared him. He has never growled at my partner again and they are best mates. He was testing the boundaries and he learned that my partner is above him.

    A puppy peeing on the floor, nope, they don't even get scolded for it really, I use positive reinforcement for that. But doing something that is dangerous, or something they KNOW is wrong then yes I take it a bit further.

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    Here is the way to use a rolled up news paper. Take the rolled up newspaper and lift it over your shoulder, Twist the hand so that the news paper lines up with the back of your head. Now flick the newspaper backwards and forwards, making solid contact with the back of your head whilst repeating "I was not watching my dog, I was not watching my dog, I was not watching my dog".

    Distraction and deflection is the better way to get dogs away from being naughty. If they do end up chewing your furniture you cannot blame them as frustrating as it is to see a $500 lounge with a hole where I normally park my butt.That was my fault for leaving the pup unattended.

    You can use their name or a sound to get their attention and then provide a distraction in the form of a toy.
    Nev Allen
    Border River Pet Resort

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nev Allen View Post
    Here is the way to use a rolled up news paper. Take the rolled up newspaper and lift it over your shoulder, Twist the hand so that the news paper lines up with the back of your head. Now flick the newspaper backwards and forwards, making solid contact with the back of your head whilst repeating "I was not watching my dog, I was not watching my dog, I was not watching my dog".

    Distraction and deflection is the better way to get dogs away from being naughty. If they do end up chewing your furniture you cannot blame them as frustrating as it is to see a $500 lounge with a hole where I normally park my butt.That was my fault for leaving the pup unattended.

    You can use their name or a sound to get their attention and then provide a distraction in the form of a toy.
    I like your view of things!

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    I'm lucky our dog is very responsive to a loud 'Oi' if he is about to fail. When he was little I could see him being tempted by doing whatever anyway but I learned to interpret the signs and 'noooo' in a low voice always (almost always) did the job. When the mud puddle was/is too tempting I wouldn't punish because it happens so rarely that I don't want to spoil our relationship over such peanuts.

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    Dogs aren't people, they don't have a moral compass. They have no concept of right and wrong.

    If my dog did something 'serious' like act aggressively towards a child I would have a bigger problem on my hands then correcting them then and there could fix.

    If they destroyed something in the house that would be my problem for allowing them to have access to it in the first place.

    I always find it quite bizarre the way humans expect their dogs to think like people.

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    jonah has never copped a smack.... ive been tempted, but i cant bring my self to do it.... time outs usually work for him.... that or distracting him......

    no im not one of those hippies who doesnt believe in smacking.... i think a kick up the ass usually help (with kids esspecially) but he hasnt done anythign thats warranted it......yet.
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    Dog's definitely know the concept of right and wrong!

    I see it in my own - if they do something wrong, they know. They walk around with this guilty look or try and kiss my ass when i decide to ignore them. I don't expect my dogs to think like a human - because they are dogs! but i think they are more intelligent than your giving them credit for - well mine maybe anyway

    Tahlz, i will not even bother with you anymore, you are a waste of breath and lack any sort of intelligence since you want to go round & round in circles. First time since i've joined this forum that i've had to use the ignore button on somebody! Congratulations for being that annoying, kudos to you!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bec View Post
    Dogs aren't people, they don't have a moral compass. They have no concept of right and wrong.

    If my dog did something 'serious' like act aggressively towards a child I would have a bigger problem on my hands then correcting them then and there could fix.

    If they destroyed something in the house that would be my problem for allowing them to have access to it in the first place.

    I always find it quite bizarre the way humans expect their dogs to think like people.
    I don't expect my dog to think like a person. It's not about making him feel that eating shoes/furniture/electrical cables/the cat is wrong, it's about making him understand that I, his best friend and person from whom everything he needs in life comes from, disagree with certain behaviours. Now, I agree that techniques that incorporate punishment do put pressure on the dog, but if smacking your dog a few times without actually hurting the animal 'ruins' the dog and sends it into a shell from which it can never be coaxed well, I would argue that was a ruined dog to begin with. I know all dogs are individuals and so yes, if you rescue a dog you may need to revise your training methods. But a well-bred dog that has never suffered abuse should have more character and resilience than that. I have met well-bred dogs that have suffered terrible abuse and still turn around just fine when they get a new owner - after a week you could never even tell that they spent the last year of their life tied in a back yard and get beaten at least once a week. I have tried all positive reinforcement and ended up with a situation where my dog was calling the shots. He still loved me and still often did what I asked, but it was on his terms so it wasn't reliable. That is dangerous (with any dog but particularly large ones) and restricted what I could do and where I could go with him. You guys know your dogs and you're the ones who have to live with them. If the dog is not unhappy, don't judge, the person needs to create a dog they want to have around.

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    Quite often a well bred pair of dogs can produce one or two pups in a litter that are softer than all the other pups. With these softer pups, you do not need to do more than raise your voice an octave or two and they know you are trying to tell them they are out of line.
    At the other end of the litter you can have a dog that you may scruff, smack on the bum, raise your voice, whatever and he looks at you with tail wagging and says, well what do you expect, i'm a puppy.
    It's up to you as the puppys mentor to learn exactly where he sits in between those 2 points and act accordingly.
    Nev Allen
    Border River Pet Resort

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