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    hi there, my partner and i are wanting a puppy of either mini labradoodle or spoodle. so wondering, in peoples opinion, (no, we dont want a pure breed) what are the pros and cons of each. and does anyone know a good reasonably priced breeder for either in vic
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    leah

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    Hello Leah,

    Labradoodles and spoodles cross with poodles i think were originally bred as a lovely natured family pet that was low or non shedding, but i guess with any cross, the pup could get the temperment of any of the breeds in its heritage and could be low, high or non shedding, and you wont know until the dog is older, so as with any cross, its a bit of lucky dip!
    They are great family dogs when bought up with children.


    i have friend who has the contact details of a responsible breeder in Victoria who is a very small breeder of labradoodles and health tests ie hip dysplacia/eyes etc, im pretty sure she dosent have a lot of litters but will PM you if she is expecting a litter.

    Please be carefull you do not support large kennels who's animals are confined for the majority of their lives and have a miserable quality of life, and for your own benefit, meet the parents, and check the mum and dad have hip/eye tests, you may just save yourself a fortune in the future on vet bills.
    There are many small responsible breeders who health check and who's dogs are a happy part of their family, also check out rescue groups as well, you may just get lucky as some resue groups fly dogs interstate now.

    There is also the Australian labradoodle Assoc who has young and older dogs available for rehoming on there websites at very low costs, but again like ANY breeder there is no guarantee they come from a responsible person, so good judgment will be needed on your part to ensure you dont buy from breeding machines when looking.

    Good luck
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    If you decide to go for a "spoodle" please ensure that the Cocker parent has been DNA tested for Progressive Retinal Atrophy (causes blindness) and Familial Nephropathy (fatal kidney disease). Also, ask to see evidence of these tests from the breeder. An ethical breeder will have carried out these tests before breeding. If they can't or won't produce this evidence, then run a mile. I don't know what health testing is required for poodles (although I think PRA can be a problem) but a google search will provide you with this information. If you are specifically looking for a non-shedding dog, there is a very good chance that a "spoodle" with a Cocker parent will shed to some degree, as Cockers generally do shed a lot. I hope you are successful in finding a caring, ethical breeder.

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    PRA is the biggest problem in poodles so yes PRA tested parents are a MUST minimum.
    Anything 'miniature' should also be elbow scored and checked for patella luxation before breeding.

    Are you after this sort of look to a pup?

    Paris_Poodles_Madeline_sit-335x347_1_.jpg

    Labrodoodles are just soooooo cute.... Oh no wait, my mistake that's just a standard poodle. Seriously, don't get the appeal sorry when poodles comed in 3 sizes and don't have to be in 'fru-fru' trims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crested_Love View Post
    PRA is the biggest problem in poodles so yes PRA tested parents are a MUST minimum.
    Anything 'miniature' should also be elbow scored and checked for patella luxation before breeding.

    Are you after this sort of look to a pup?

    Paris_Poodles_Madeline_sit-335x347_1_.jpg

    Labrodoodles are just soooooo cute.... Oh no wait, my mistake that's just a standard poodle. Seriously, don't get the appeal sorry when poodles comed in 3 sizes and don't have to be in 'fru-fru' trims.
    Is that really a poodle?! It's so cute! Haha

    Is there any reason Leah why you do not want a pure bred dog?

    There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jadielee87 View Post
    Is that really a poodle?! It's so cute! Haha

    Is there any reason Leah why you do not want a pure bred dog?
    Hehe yep that's a poodle! You should see my white Miniature at the moment, he looks very similar to that one because I have been a bit lax in clipping him with the cold weather coming. They come in Black, white, brown, apricot, silver, red, cream.

    He does however get a 10 blade (very short) all over in summer because he's a bit of a water baby and it makes drying 100x faster

    Leah, I hope you don't get offended by my comments, stick around the forum and you'll get used to my pro-purebred posts

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    PRA testing is a must in looking for a cocker / poodle cross.

    It is an issue in both breeds, so if two carriers are bred together the offspring can succuumb to the disease. Having your pet go steadily blind can be a raumatic experience, and there is no way to slow or treat it.

    This is where the 'crossbreds are healthier' argument can really fall down. Genetic conditions are not necessarily bred out by crossing, not at all. And many people who crossbreed don't test breeding stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nattylou View Post
    PRA testing is a must in looking for a cocker / poodle cross.

    It is an issue in both breeds, so if two carriers are bred together the offspring can succuumb to the disease. Having your pet go steadily blind can be a raumatic experience, and there is no way to slow or treat it.

    This is where the 'crossbreds are healthier' argument can really fall down. Genetic conditions are not necessarily bred out by crossing, not at all. And many people who crossbreed don't test breeding stock.
    But a lot do now Natty, I dont think it is really about cross or pure breds, they are both dogs and folks are equally entitled to choose a cross or a purebred.

    We should be educating folks about finding a good breeder. The point in all cases should be to breed for the health of the offspring, which is still sadly lacking amongst breeders both pure and cross.
    The reason I always reccomend small breeders who's only have a few dogs who are valued family members is because you cant make a lot of money without having a lot of dogs and you cant be adding to the over population of dogs if you have very few litters and would be more likely to breed for health rather than money or appearance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crested_Love View Post
    PRA is the biggest problem in poodles so yes PRA tested parents are a MUST minimum.
    Anything 'miniature' should also be elbow scored and checked for patella luxation before breeding.

    Are you after this sort of look to a pup?

    Paris_Poodles_Madeline_sit-335x347_1_.jpg

    Labrodoodles are just soooooo cute.... Oh no wait, my mistake that's just a standard poodle. Seriously, don't get the appeal sorry when poodles comed in 3 sizes and don't have to be in 'fru-fru' trims.
    I always thought poodles where ugly dogs, but gotta say thats kinda cute. Would be cutier if it was black though

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    I like this thread....no immediate xbred bashing...just some "what to look out for healthwise in your xbreed"...excellent! Best way to educate IMO.

    FYI, I dont like that poodle...its ugly LMAO

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