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    Gosh, I just hate some pet owners. Their selfishness and lack of concern flabbergasts me. Even some owners who love their pets to death are sometimes neglectful.

    Yesterday around 5pm I had a beautiful cocker spaniel placed in my care for 6 weeks. He is an absolute sook and loves people (hates cats though!). This boy is a regular visitor to my home and I believe I know him quite well. No, stuff it, I know him really well.

    After the owner told me how busy he had been doing media stories and photo shoots for the past couple of days (this person is not famous) he mentioned in passing his dog had been shaking his head since having a haircut. Owner thinks there is either water or fur irritating CS but said it appears to be settling down.

    Settling down! B***shit! Poor CS was as quiet as a mouse last night and though he came out of the laundry for a smooch this morning he put himself back into bed. This is not normal behaviour for this dog. Last night, though he ate his dinner, it was like watching grass grown and not usual for this beautiful boy who usually wolfs his dinner down hoping to then steal a bit of someone else's. This dog is sick.

    I don't get how this owner could go away for over a month without first taking his dog to the vet. It is totally neglectful in my opinion. And totally selfish to just assume it is okay to place the cost, time and responsibility onto me. If the dog is in my care and BECOMES sick then there is no question as to my responsibilities - part of the job. But at the end of the day I am not the owner just the carer and a dog should be well when placed in my care. I would never, ever treat any of my pets or wildlife like this.

    The poor bloody dog must be in such pain and will got to the vets today. But to be honest it totally p***sses me off. Though it is not the dogs fault, I spent Monday and tuesday at the Childrens Hospital and yesterday spent four hours on an animal rescue with Council and RSPCA help and it all went terribly wrong at the end - it was not the outcome I wanted (won't go into it or I will cry AGAIN). Lets hope what dog has is just an ear infection and not contagious and he will feel better sooner rather than later.

    This owner knows I will do the right thing as I previously had to care for his sons dog who was unwell. I feel he has taken advantage of me.

    His son's dogs story is just as bad. The family was going to Borneo and the dog got sick the day before hand. Took him to the vets, dog had injection, then the brought him to me and told me at drop off. Within 24 hours (not a minute sooner or later) of having that injection this poor boy was vomiting and had diorrehea. He had to be isolated from other dogs, he was scarred, sick and very, very upset. He was on medication every 4 hours and I have the scars to show from where he bit me in distress. This went on for 10 days.

    My terms and conditions state owners must FORE WARN me of any illness and I reserve the right to not take the dog. I think this is why they don't tell me - in case I pull the pin on the mind at the last minute and inconvenience them in some way! Their dog's wellbeing does not seem to come before their holiday. I wish I had the guts to pull the pin but then I worry who will care for the dog, will he/she get vet attention, I think the dog knows me so if he is unwell it is probably better for the dog to be with me than a stranger, etc, etc. Maybe I need to stop thinking I am the be all and end all and these dogs couldn't receive appropriate care from someone else. So maybe this is all my fault.

    I am really proud of my little business and I used to love my job. I have had this business running for 8 years on word of mouth. I do not advertise and already have bookings for next year so I must be doing something right - and I am not cheap. But I am just at the point where I am exhausted by the owners NOT THE DOGS! Last year I had a dog euthanised who was in my care after the owner left him with me sick. She never bothered to take him to the vets and he had chronic kidney failure. It was one of the worst moments of my life . These people don't understand that each incident just pushes me into shutting the business down - I am on the brink. It is no wonder I prefer animals over the majority of humans. We are generally an awful bunch - present company excluded.

    Fingers crossed this dear little man is okay. I am soooo filthy on the owner I am thinking of sending him both a text and email to say his dog is sick and hopefully ruin his holiday. But the truth is I don't think he would really care too much or his dog would have already seen a vet. The week can only get better. I know I am sounding like a real whinger and some of you may be thinking "1st world problem" but I just can't articulate how much despair I feel when an animal is not treated in what I think is an appropriate way.

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    It just gets worse - called owner as he is still in the country (flies out today) and he tried to tell me this is the dogs normal behaviour and wait 48 hours before taking him to the vets. Guess who is trying to save money and guess who will be ignoring his instructions. Dog WILL be going to vets today. GGGGRRRRR................

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    People like that piss me off too, people don't diserve to have animals if they choose not to look after them

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    Guy sounds like a right douche.

    However, if he is saying this is dogs normal behaviour and to wait 48 hours, I probably owuld. I never rush my dogs to the vet at the first sign of something wrong. Its usually a waste of time and money as alot of things come right of their own accord after a day or so.

    But you have to look after it so its your call.

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    Hi Lala

    Reason I do take a sick dog to the vets sooner rather than later is because they are not my dog. Though I think it is ok to wait with your own pets I have to be mindful that it is someone else's pet and with that comes a lot of responsibility. With dogs that I care for in my business I do not take risks - big or little. All my clients know that I only wait 24 hours with a sick dog unless it is an emergency or I feel it cannot wait 24 hours and then we go immediately (of course).

    I also have to keep in mind it may not be just an ear infection which means all the other dogs here may be at risk of catching something.

    The problem with this little guy is he had his hair cut over a week ago so that is a long time to have an ear ache in my opinion. I don't think it is gonna clear up of its own accord.

    I have only ever had to make a few visits to vets over the years of which my clients are aware. From my point of view they should not be leaving their dog in my care if they do not trust my judgement of when their dog should/shouldn't go to the vets.

    If my dog was in the care of someone else I WOULD want them to take them to the vet and not wait. Though I also don't like to waste money - it is money well worth wasting if my pets are actually ok. I don't think many of us take our pets to the vets unnecessarily.
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    I am gathering that you run a small pet sitting op. Do you have a standard set of terms and conditions? One of those should be that you are not in any way responsible if the dog requires a visit to the vet for whatever reason and that the pet owner will indemnify you for any and all costs incurred. This is a standard condition in the majority, if not all, kennels t's and c's.

    Take a look at the various kennel web sites and check out their rules. You will find mine on my booking form, on the rates page. Border River Pet Resort
    Nev Allen
    Border River Pet Resort

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    My terms and conditions do cover all this. My terms and conditions literally indemnify me against everything and anything plus I am insured. But as you would be aware the vet bill needs to be paid and then you are reliant on the pet owner paying you back. If a pet owner didn't pay the bill it would probably not be worth my while as a small business owner to chase the money up (unless we are talking a large amount of money). When I am talking cost - I am talking more about my time, petrol, phone calls, etc. I worry terribly when a pet (whether it is my own or not) gets unwell/sick - they can not tell you what is wrong. You only know by their actions. Some animals are good at covering up when they are unwell so hence we are not always able to determine what level of care they require.

    I feel like my point in relation to this animal has got lost (which would be my fault due to my constant whinging and crapping on). But my point is not about the business - it is about the fact that the owner should have (in my opinion) made sure his dog was 100% well before leaving him in the care of another person - whether that be paid care or family/friend etc. I believe it is the owners responsibility to his pet to do this.

    As you can see I am still very, very annoyed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ratbag jrt View Post
    Hi Lala

    Reason I do take a sick dog to the vets sooner rather than later is because they are not my dog. Though I think it is ok to wait with your own pets I have to be mindful that it is someone else's pet and with that comes a lot of responsibility. With dogs that I care for in my business I do not take risks - big or little. All my clients know that I only wait 24 hours with a sick dog unless it is an emergency or I feel it cannot wait 24 hours and then we go immediately (of course).

    I also have to keep in mind it may not be just an ear infection which means all the other dogs here may be at risk of catching something.

    The problem with this little guy is he had his hair cut over a week ago so that is a long time to have an ear ache in my opinion. I don't think it is gonna clear up of its own accord.

    I have only ever had to make a few visits to vets over the years of which my clients are aware. From my point of view they should not be leaving their dog in my care if they do not trust my judgement of when their dog should/shouldn't go to the vets.

    If my dog was in the care of someone else I WOULD want them to take them to the vet and not wait. Though I also don't like to waste money - it is money well worth wasting if my pets are actually ok. I don't think many of us take our pets to the vets unnecessarily.
    I understand all that, but the guy said it himself. Youve informed him and hes requested what you do. Therefore if it gets more serious because you waited 48 hours, its his problem.

    If my dog was somewhere staying, and I stated it was normal behaviour and to please wait 48 hours. Id be pissed if the dog was taken anyway when I personally wouldnt have taken it, if that makes sense.

    And I disagree with it being money well wasted if there is nothing wrong with the dog. I dont rush my child or myself to the doctor either at every wee sign. When I got my first dog, I used to rush her to the vet for every little thing, I spent probably a few hundred over a few visits to be told that it was just a bug, or wait 24 hours and see how it goes.

    IMO, it all depends on the seriousness of it. I guess doggy people (you, I, most people here) will know if it is something that definitely needs a vet visit or not and as long as your are comfortable with the decision to take him to the vet then thats great. Like I said, you have to look after the dog so its your call. I just personally would give it a bit of time. Everyone is different though.

    And that doesnt detract from the fact that the guy still sounds like a douche. If I even thought ther was somethng wrong with my dogs, I wouldnt go away until it had been checked, or the dog recovered.

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    With all due respect, Lala - it is not his problem if the dog gets sicker. It is mine. He is here for 6 weeks. It is also my problem if he infects 5 other dogs and they require care and vet treatment. It is my problem to find the money for the vets if that should happen. It is also my problem to then explain to the owners why their dog/s got sick. And I would have an even bigger problem if a dog died in my care. My problems could go on and on. If I was not to take the dog to the vets and he got sicker I am sure the owner would also have something to say about that.

    I called the owner not to get his advice or direction but to inform him that I was taking his dog to the vet. The dog is now in my care and I make the decisions - all the decisions. I have guardianship of his dog for 6 weeks and he knows my rules. And that is that. I believe this is an animal welfare situation and the dog requires vet treatment and regardless of the owners opinion on that the dog will be going to the vet. The dog is not going to the vets unnecessarily - I am not an idiot and not in the job of wasting my clients money. Or my time or the vets time. As stated this dog had a cut over a week ago (if that is the cause) - when do you say enough is enough.

    Obviously we have very different opinions because I say better safe than sorry - dogs, cats, animals to vets. Kids to doctors. So far I do not feel I have every made a wasted visit or wasted my money. I am not rushing the dog to the vets over a "wee sign". He is lethargic, not eating, shaking his head like his ear hurts and has a temperature. He has not come out of the laundry since 7am this morning. I do not define these symptoms as "wee signs".

    You are right - it is my call and I believe I have made the right decision by the dog (not myself or the owner) and the owner is a douche!

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    ratbagJRT -
    have you looked in the spaniel's ear? Stuffed it with a coiled kleenex and pulled that out to see what's there? If it comes out gooey - then vet definitely. If it looks red and swollen - vet... and stuff like that is good to tell owner when you're justifying going to the vet.

    I'm afraid I've left my dog at boarding twice when she wasn't quite right. I don't know what it is about impending holiday and evil hound getting sick.

    The first time i did it, she had the runs. I took her to the vet, and he gave me treatment which had to be given three times a day, and I was going to leave her with my brother's family - he owes me a few dog sitting weeks... but she was sick. So I ended up boarding her at the vet's where I knew she'd get her medication. Turned out that when I switched to a different food - the runs every fortnnight stopped. Ie her regular food - didn't suit her.

    Second time was last feb. She'd had a horrible tummy rash - and I went to the vet, got treatment, got it all cleared up, and then left her at boarding kennel for a week - this one came highly recommended. I warned them about the rash and said I thought it was aggravated by tummy crawling and grass. So they kept her off the grass, but they never checked her tummy. She wasn't chewing at it when they were looking (she knows what happens when she does this - chewing gets rudely interuppted by humans wanting to see what the problem is). So they didn't think anything was wrong. But when I picked her up - she had cherry red lumpy inflamation on her tummy - it was horrific. So I went to their vet for more treatment - which didn't help much. And another vet later for some more treatment which has helped more, as has keeping her off the grass and limiting crawling opportunities. It's still not great so I guess I will be going back to the vet again...

    Anyway - it's great when the boarding kennel actually cares and checks. But evil hounds (and children) will get sick the day you're booked to fly out and travel insurance doesn't cover it. Sigh. So I'd be discussing problem with vet and boarding and if it's bad - she goes to the vet, and if it's managable - she goes to boarding with medicine and the expectation that she will get vet treatment as required and I will pay. I have to pay for the boarding when I drop her off, so there is some money towards it and one place took an imprint of my credit card.

    PS next time that person or a member of their family wants to book their dog in - I'd be full up, no place available.
    Last edited by Hyacinth; 05-10-2012 at 02:33 PM.

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