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    Quote Originally Posted by Villain & Flirtt View Post
    First let me say I'm NOT trying to be argumentative!! *grin* BUT I tend to think this can be a thinking trap lots of people fall into, especially with hunting/herding/high energy breeds. Without heaps of mental stimulation (this comes from you or family members interacting with the dog), you are more likely to end up with a destructive, barking, unhappy maniac. Physical exercise is needed, but even then, lots of dogs need a reason (read: a human) to get up and exercise mind and body. Otherwise they lie about bored out of their brains with the occasional manic destructive episode in between.

    On the subject of Labradoodles.... Look, I'll just say read and research carefully, be prepared to get a dog with any or all of the Lab or Poodle traits and again be prepared for either lots of shedding, or lots of grooming and clipping. I've never met a calm Lab-doodle, but I'm sure that does not mean they don't exist- obviously!
    I understand, and thanks for warning me. We'll try to interact with it as much as we can. Whether that will keep it stimulated, I don't know until I get the dog!

    Never met a calm one, hey? That's interesting.

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    Labradoodles coats can vary quite considerably, they can have a fleece coat (like an angora goat), a hair coat (like the Lab) or a wooly coast (like the poodle).
    There are also variations in the breed standard size from about 7 - 30 kg, minature, medium and standard .

    They are extremely clever, sociable, comical and energetic dogs quiet when handled. They are generally very happy with a friendly manner, keen and easy to train. They, like with labradors should display an intuition about their family members or handler’s current emotional state or needs. This ability to “know” is what has made the Australian Labradoodle an excellent dog for individuals with special needs.
    They do require training and can be quite destructive as puppies, and sometimes tale a little extra time to mature but make great children and family pets. Like many other dogs, they will need ongoing grooming or clipping.
    There is actually a ALA (Australian Labradoodle assoc) that claims, to have a code of ethics for members and registers litters, but as with other breed groups I imagine they would be the same with no consequences for "breaking the code" nor is it mandatory to do health checks and they dont care how many dogs they own and breed from.
    The onus will be on you as with any breed to find someone who cares more for the breed and the individual dogs, than the money.

    But good breeders are out there, you just need to take the time to find them.
    Good luck
    Thank you very much for all of that. Very useful info.

    Quote Originally Posted by jadielee87 View Post
    My only comment... you said you didn't like the poodle and a lab wasn't for you... why on earth would contemplate a mix of both?
    Well...
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    I don't personally like its long coat, but it's very quickly become a favourite in the family (not including me)

    I'm pretty confused now. Not really sure what to go with!

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    All the lab ra doo dles I've met were bonkers - except one who does agility and even that one only did what it was supposed to when it felt like it. One I know started attacking other dogs at the park. We don't see that one any more. It never got enough exercise or training. If you want a quiet family pet you don't need to train much - get a cavalier king charles spaniel.

    I talked to a Lagotto R owner recently and she said the labr adoo dle stand insisted that their dogs were registered now - she thought they meant registered with ANKC and eligible for ANKC dog shows, but that would be untrue. Doesn't take long to check the ANKC website - no labr ado odles (they'd never allow that name), or "Aussie Cobbers" either.

    What they mean by "registered" is "registered" with the Australian La brad oodle Association.

    So if they lie and mislead the public about that, what else to they lie about. And every single one at that event - I'd call a puppy farm - with all the problems you get from those - antisocial dogs, unhealthy dogs, dogs that don't live up to their breeder's promises (eg easy care coat WTF?).

    This is from their code of ethics. But if they deliberately cross breed - that's grounds for membership revoking at ANKC. At least they have a code of ethics even if it does seem a bit bizarre.
    1.3. I acknowledge that I have never had any membership revoked or suspended by a Canine Association or if so, have provided details relating to such an incident, with my breeders application and will notify the ALA if this were to occur. 1-5
    And I can't find anything in their code that says they won't breed the bitch as often as she comes into season. ANKC sets a limit on how frequent having puppies is allowed ie 18 months apart. Labra do odles can be bred every time they come into season (eek puppy mill).

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    Lol @ Hyac. I know it's LabRAdoodle... I just kinda prefer Lab-doodle IF. WE. MUST. Of course we COULD say Labrador Poodle Cross *grin*

    There's an idea- how about an Aussie Cobbadog? Are they available yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    What they mean by "registered" is "registered" with the Australian La brad oodle Association.

    So if they lie and mislead the public about that, what else to they lie about. And every single one at that event - I'd call a puppy farm - with all the problems you get from those - antisocial dogs, unhealthy dogs, dogs that don't live up to their breeder's promises (eg easy care coat WTF?).

    This is from their code of ethics. But if they deliberately cross breed - that's grounds for membership revoking at ANKC. At least they have a code of ethics even if it does seem a bit bizarre.


    And I can't find anything in their code that says they won't breed the bitch as often as she comes into season. ANKC sets a limit on how frequent having puppies is allowed ie 18 months apart. Labra do odles can be bred every time they come into season (eek puppy mill).
    I agree with you Hyacinth that the ALA maybe misleading people as to their "registered" status, which is why I commented to invalid name that despite what their saying you have to use your own common sense when looking for a dog, what ever breed he chooses.
    But I will disagree with you the ANKC code of ethics or breed groups code of ethics are anymore legitimate or enforceable as that of the labradoodle association as far as breeders go.
    Breeders only register legitimate matings and litters....the rest they can sell off to pet families who dont need or want papers if they choose(and there are plenty of those), or sell through the paper or internet.

    Breed clubs have members they know are breeding far to many litters for the amount of dogs registered on the property..but ignore it.

    Wether is be ANKC code of ethics or ALA code of ethics????
    A code of ethics is only as good as the ethics of the breeder when there is no enforcement of those guidelines.
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    Remember to keep an eye on the RSPCA website (Adopt a pet) and any other rescue organisations around your area. You might not get a purebred dog but it is a wonderful feeling saving a life, they are already vaccinated, wormed, flea treated and desexed and I'm sure you will fall in love with what ever dog you end up getting

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    I'm just trying to make my posts less search engine friendly... I don't want anyone googling to see what we say about their puppy mills. Ah, stuff it. Care factor. zero.

    So back on the tollers, I talked to a toller owner from a line from WA not the Sherbrooke ones. Hers was much longer in the leg (taller) and more laid back than the Sherbrooke ones, according to her (though I'm not sure if that's nature or nuture ie they way they are trained/brought up). She also said there was one line from the Eastern states, prone to thyroid cancer - but if you do your research you can find out which one. Or PM me. Not that I know exactly cos she couldn't remember.

    Hers was energetic in spurts. I suspect, not very fit, but very happy and friendly.

    And just being a bit biased - but this one fits your critiera - from rescue.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkEDO...layer_embedded

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    Well I'm properly confused about labradoodles now. Oh well, I'd try to avoid them anyway.

    If I were to buy a toller, it would be from one of the breeders that Kristy.Maree posted a couple of pages back. Could it be one of those?

    Yeah, I might adopt a dog. I'll have another look on the website. Last time I checked there wasn't really anything suitable.

    The hardest thing about choosing a dog is that everyone in the household wants something different and we can't seem to agree on one (it's so frustrating; to call the others 'fussy' would be an understatement! ).
    We don't seem to be getting anywhere when trying to choose one. I need to find a dog that's impossible to dislike.

    Thanks for your help too, guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by This name is invalid View Post

    Yeah, I might adopt a dog. I'll have another look on the website. Last time I checked there wasn't really anything suitable.

    The hardest thing about choosing a dog is that everyone in the household wants something different and we can't seem to agree on one (it's so frustrating; to call the others 'fussy' would be an understatement! ).
    We don't seem to be getting anywhere when trying to choose one. I need to find a dog that's impossible to dislike.
    It's best to check adoption websites every few days, they have new dogs coming in all the time

    And I know what you mean about it being hard to chose a dog, my partner and I couldn't decide on anything, we even had a look at the shelter website and nothing stood out (they look so much different in their photos) but we went and had a look anyway and we saw Meika there and both fell in love but couldn't take her home because we had just bought a house (the rental wouldn't allow pets) and weren't moving in for another 3 weeks. I was so worried that somebody else would adopt her during those 3 weeks but nobody did so the day before we got the keys to the new house I went and adopted her and they were nice enough to keep her overnight for me. In a way it feels like it was meant to be as she was absolutely gorgeous, was the only dog at the shelter not barking, and such a people-loving friendly dog yet nobody adopted her during that time and we still haven't had a single problem with her, no barking (unless 'speak' on command), no digging, no chewing, loves cuddles, is so loyal (we could let her off the leash at the park after 1 week and she wouldn't go further than 10m from us) and she's always so so so happy to see you! Anyway, thats by boast about my sweet girl haha she's my special little darling!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy.Maree View Post
    It's best to check adoption websites every few days, they have new dogs coming in all the time

    And I know what you mean about it being hard to chose a dog, my partner and I couldn't decide on anything, we even had a look at the shelter website and nothing stood out (they look so much different in their photos) but we went and had a look anyway and we saw Meika there and both fell in love but couldn't take her home because we had just bought a house (the rental wouldn't allow pets) and weren't moving in for another 3 weeks. I was so worried that somebody else would adopt her during those 3 weeks but nobody did so the day before we got the keys to the new house I went and adopted her and they were nice enough to keep her overnight for me. In a way it feels like it was meant to be as she was absolutely gorgeous, was the only dog at the shelter not barking, and such a people-loving friendly dog yet nobody adopted her during that time and we still haven't had a single problem with her, no barking (unless 'speak' on command), no digging, no chewing, loves cuddles, is so loyal (we could let her off the leash at the park after 1 week and she wouldn't go further than 10m from us) and she's always so so so happy to see you! Anyway, thats by boast about my sweet girl haha she's my special little darling!
    Wow, that's a great story. I was a bit iffy about adopting, but hearing that certainly helps.
    I'll be sure to check out the nearest shelter as soon as I can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy.Maree View Post
    It's best to check adoption websites every few days, they have new dogs coming in all the time

    And I know what you mean about it being hard to chose a dog, my partner and I couldn't decide on anything, we even had a look at the shelter website and nothing stood out (they look so much different in their photos) but we went and had a look anyway and we saw Meika there and both fell in love but couldn't take her home because we had just bought a house (the rental wouldn't allow pets) and weren't moving in for another 3 weeks. I was so worried that somebody else would adopt her during those 3 weeks but nobody did so the day before we got the keys to the new house I went and adopted her and they were nice enough to keep her overnight for me. In a way it feels like it was meant to be as she was absolutely gorgeous, was the only dog at the shelter not barking, and such a people-loving friendly dog yet nobody adopted her during that time and we still haven't had a single problem with her, no barking (unless 'speak' on command), no digging, no chewing, loves cuddles, is so loyal (we could let her off the leash at the park after 1 week and she wouldn't go further than 10m from us) and she's always so so so happy to see you! Anyway, thats by boast about my sweet girl haha she's my special little darling!
    Aww! I chose my previous dog from the RSPCA because she was the only dog not barking her head off when I walked past the kennels. Well, that was one of the reasons.

    Lots of the dogs on the PetRescue - find your new best friend! site are being fostered too, so they can tell you how much they shed.

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