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    Yes it's that bad. We have a labX and his fur is everywhere. It's next to impossible to get rid off it. Last week I washed the sofa covers (cheap ikea sofas on purpose) but it took only 3 days for them to look just like before. Not that I really care I love it when he comes to snuggle up with me and I find him snoring under my desk very relaxing when I'm frantically trying to meet a deadline.

    I was going to suggest to adopt a greyhound as well but if you want an outside dog they're perhaps not such a good choice? They look so fragile and just seem to be made to laze aristocratically on a sofa.

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    There are lots of arguments on why a strictly outside dog isn't a great idea. But if that's what you are going with, that's again a whole different set of criteria you need to add. Some breeds would cope better with it than others. I also don't really get why it would matter whether they shed if you intend on keeping them outside either?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    What about a beagle?

    Labs are very easy to train - they like food so much. But so many owners don't bother and that's where there are problems.

    What about a whippet? or Italian greyhound? Or Jack Russell Terrier or a shar pei. Shar pei can be a bit hard to train because it can be hard to figure out what they will work for (nuts about). Food isn't often it. But they don't usually get into trouble like Labs and Staffies can. Or a nova scotia duck tolling retriever - I can pat one of those without ending up with piles of fluff all around (not like labs and goldens) and they're very smart but more laid back than border collies.
    That nova scotia duck tolling retriever sounds perfect! Where would I find one in Victoria, though (preferably near Melbourne)?
    Thanks for the other suggestions too, I'll have a look.

    Quote Originally Posted by margoo View Post
    Yes it's that bad. We have a labX and his fur is everywhere. It's next to impossible to get rid off it. Last week I washed the sofa covers (cheap ikea sofas on purpose) but it took only 3 days for them to look just like before. Not that I really care I love it when he comes to snuggle up with me and I find him snoring under my desk very relaxing when I'm frantically trying to meet a deadline.

    I was going to suggest to adopt a greyhound as well but if you want an outside dog they're perhaps not such a good choice? They look so fragile and just seem to be made to laze aristocratically on a sofa.
    Aww how sweet!

    Yeah, and we're not really a fan of the greyhound look either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beloz View Post
    There are lots of arguments on why a strictly outside dog isn't a great idea. But if that's what you are going with, that's again a whole different set of criteria you need to add. Some breeds would cope better with it than others. I also don't really get why it would matter whether they shed if you intend on keeping them outside either?
    Well, I think the dog will be happier running around outside instead of being constricted in the house if we get a relatively large and energetic breed.
    Why does it matter if they shed? Because we don't want fur all over our clothes, which then gets on all of the furniture, which means that, if one of us is allergic to it, we continue to have a reaction even when not around the dog.

    Thanks for your help, everyone!
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    Quote Originally Posted by This name is invalid View Post
    That nova scotia duck tolling retriever sounds perfect! Where would I find one in Victoria, though (preferably near Melbourne)?
    Have a look here Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever Breeders, Australia there are a few Troller breeders in Victoria and this website Skyesong Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retrievers says they have a 2012 litter planned

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy.Maree View Post
    Skyesong Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retrievers says they have a 2012 litter planned
    That's great! I'll contact some and see what happens.

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    Could someone please highlight the differences between the Toller and the Brittany? Does anyone think that one in particular would suit me better?

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    Both dogs are the size you want. And both are very good natured. I think Tollers are slightly quicker to learn than spaniels - more familiar with the welsh spaniel. But that might have to do with the quality of dog trainer. Some really good dog trainers I know, who want something a bit smaller than a lab or GR, and a bit more laid back than a BC or kelpie, like the Tollers. The problem with fast learners is they can end up training the owner instead of the other way round. Seen plenty of Labs with owners totally under their thumb. Spaniels don't seem to do that so much. But that could be my imagination.

    I don't know enough about what you're looking for to know if one or the other would suit you better. I think you should go meet some. Dog shows can be good for this. ie look up dogs vic and find out when the next shows for these dogs are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    Both dogs are the size you want. And both are very good natured. I think Tollers are slightly quicker to learn than spaniels - more familiar with the welsh spaniel. But that might have to do with the quality of dog trainer. Some really good dog trainers I know, who want something a bit smaller than a lab or GR, and a bit more laid back than a BC or kelpie, like the Tollers. The problem with fast learners is they can end up training the owner instead of the other way round. Seen plenty of Labs with owners totally under their thumb. Spaniels don't seem to do that so much. But that could be my imagination.

    I don't know enough about what you're looking for to know if one or the other would suit you better. I think you should go meet some. Dog shows can be good for this. ie look up dogs vic and find out when the next shows for these dogs are.
    Thanks so much for that! Really helpful.
    I'd love to own either, so I'll have a chat with the family to see what they think.

    Also, do have have any tips to not let the dog train you (if it's not too much trouble)?

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    Get your $$$$'s ready .....Toolers are quite expensive
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    Also, do (you) have any tips to not let the dog train you (if it's not too much trouble)?
    That might be a whole nother thread, and a couple of books. But I struggle with the answer daily. Essentially - only reward (with attention, pats, food, praise etc) what behaviours you do want, and ignore or stop (collar grab, lead on, relocate) behaviours you don't want. Avoid punishment as much as possible because it's hard to get the dog to understand what is being punished.

    Beware of rewarding stuff that's cute or funny in a puppy but dangerous or illegal in an adult dog eg charging up to strangers (dogs and people) uninvited. And worse - jumping on them.

    It's a bit like the kid who says - you never told me not to run across the road without checking for cars. Ok you never said I couldn't "skip" across the road instead. But Boss, there was a cat there in desperate need of my "help". But Boss, it's not a road, it's a railway track...
    Last edited by Hyacinth; 05-06-2012 at 06:22 PM.

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