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    As some people know, Serenity has fear issues. As much as I didn't want to, I've started muzzling her on our walks because I had a close call with her and some one on a bike.

    I didn't want to put the muzzle on her because I was really worried some people may think it's funny to mock her while she's wearing it. I've gotten a few weird stares, I've had some people act just fine and walk right beside me (if they need to pass me), some people cross the road and I had no incidents with some one trying to mock her till today. She's behaving as we are both walking, I see a guy that would cross our path to get to his car so I of course slow down a bit. Now, he was a good few feet away but he turns towards us and quickly swings his arm towards Serenity in a threatening/teasing manner. Serenity just stood there, looking at him. He thankfully wasn't close enough to make her react. After that he stares at me, slowly walking to his car as i am death staring him the whole time (if eyes could burn). He then has the nerve to smile at me as if it was all good and he was just mucking around. I was shocked and words wouldn't come out of my mouth.. Next person who does that will hear it. It's not the worse thing that could have happened but I'm waiting..

    This is why I don't want her wearing a muzzle because I am waiting for the day some one does something worse but at the same time, I am worried if she isn't wearing one and I don't see some one biking/running past me, she'll bite them. I had a close call already and I was very lucky.. It just pisses me off some idiot thinks this is funny. It isn't! If she was worse then she is, that would have been a major set back. So, she will be wearing one still but it pisses me off people do this stupid shit! It makes me want to let her bloody bite them.. People like that deserve to be bitten. He was a complete rude prick...

    The joys of owning Serenity and dealing with idiots!

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    What a jerk. I can't even comprehend why somebody would go out of the way to terrorize a dog wearing a muzzle! In my experience most people try to keep well away from a dog with a muzzle.

    I have a dog who i use to muzzle and sit in the off-lead area's in as he was extremely dog aggressive. I found most people left the park purely for the fact i had a muzzled dog, but gradually people would come to talk to me out of curiosity of what the muzzle was for, and when they saw he was people friendly and saw the progress of his behavior all was well.

    We have recently moved and the new environment has set him back & his dog aggression issues have come rearing back. It's too far of a drive to head to our old park everyday and he is not adjusting to the new park very well so i've decided to leave the off-lead park out all together and just walk him as i can't be bothered with trying the muzzle procedure all over again - the stares, trying to stop him from rolling around to loosen the muzzle.

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    Some people are just idiots.

    Has anyone done any desensitising/counter-conditioning with your dog?

    It works really well and if you can get help from some bike riders, it might help her live an easier life


    Here is some info on it,,,link...... Behavior Adjustment Training (BAT) | Official site for BAT: dog-friendly training for reactivity (aggression, fear, frustration) by Grisha Stewart, MA

    And if you are very interested pm me and i can let you have more instructions in PDF format

    And some really good info from my fav Animal Behaviorist | Dr. Sophia Yin
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    Personally, I'd be making a note of the licence plate of his car and considering reporting him to the police.

    The thing is - under most law - if the dog is provoked, harrassed or teased - then it is exempt from the must not bite rules. But - it's hard to prove that the other guy was harrassing her.

    If I was feeling really brave - I'd take photo with phone camera.

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    Shame the jerk didnt fall in a deep pothole whilst walking and staring at you , some people are just a waste of oxygen
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    Whoa, that is just so out of line, I'm gobsmacked. How do idiots like that sleep at night?

    There is no way in hell that he would be able to justify to any magistrate if your dog had gone him that it was unprovoked - what, she just happened to get him to pull over his car, get him out of it (having undone his seatbelt first!), got him to stand on the footpath and then behave like a total d!ck and THEN decide to bite him? Lordy me, that is just insane.

    I don't know what advice at all to offer - but I am sending you both {{{{ Hugs }}}} that you have to suffer such fools.

    And yes, definitely make it a habit to go out with notepad, pen and camera in phone to document tools such as him.

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    Thats what I was thinking Cava. I wished so badly something happened to him..

    Pinkest: He found it funny. I really wanted to punch him in the face. If he had been closer she would not have been happy. I just hate people sometimes.

    Kuri: Some people seem to find it funny.. I have been shocked how some people will walk right beside me to pass.. Some parents even don't mind if their kids approach me. The muzzle means nothing to some people. It's a shame you can't go back to your old park but at least he's still getting the exercise he needs, I'm sure he's a happy boy. While he wore the muzzle, did he get in to many fights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    Personally, I'd be making a note of the licence plate of his car and considering reporting him to the police.

    The thing is - under most law - if the dog is provoked, harrassed or teased - then it is exempt from the must not bite rules. But - it's hard to prove that the other guy was harrassing her.

    If I was feeling really brave - I'd take photo with phone camera.
    Would the police really even care? I would do it but I'd think they'd just laugh at me. I walk past his house everyday almost (it's our normal walk routine at least twice daily). I could easily get his number plate and I am not afraid to take photos.

    I don't know if I should go up to him and say something to him (since I know where he lives)..

    Quote Originally Posted by newfsie View Post
    Some people are just idiots.

    Has anyone done any desensitising/counter-conditioning with your dog?

    It works really well and if you can get help from some bike riders, it might help her live an easier life


    Here is some info on it,,,link...... Behavior Adjustment Training (BAT) | Official site for BAT: dog-friendly training for reactivity (aggression, fear, frustration) by Grisha Stewart, MA

    And if you are very interested pm me and i can let you have more instructions in PDF format

    And some really good info from my fav Animal Behaviorist | Dr. Sophia Yin
    No, no one has yet. Thank you for the links! I will read the links tonight and I'll start working on it with her. I will Pm you later because any help would be great. I have been working with her a lot with ignoring and behaving around distractions but I know I need to do more. Thank you!

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    Tahlz, this could be considered baiting behaviour, and I would start a diary documenting everything this person does, down to the minute. Then apply for an AVO... you will know when the time is right to do it.

    But, DO NOT, under any circumstances, engage this person directly in any way or form.

    He has proven to you that he is willing to bait your dog emotionally, in public, and fears no retribution... if you know where he lives, you can be sure he knows which house you're in too. DO NOT EXPOSE YOURSELF TO HARM. {Or your doglet either} DO it legally, and do it smart. Get the local council ranger on board if possible, once you have your diarised evidence. Involve the RSPCA, and also your trainer. If possible, get a 3rd person to walk with you {that is not related to you} that you can call on as a truly independant witness to this moron's behaviour to use against him.
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    Tahlz

    You might want to have a chat with the RSPCA first. What he's doing is against the Animal Welfare Act / Prevention of cruelty to animals and it's threatening to you and your dog - even though he might not think it is. If you think the police won't care, ask to talk to someone on the dog squad in your state. They will understand and know what you need to do.

    However - sometimes going back and having a quiet chat (take someone big and scary with you) about the problem you have with his behaviour. He might not understand why you have a problem with it. He's that stupid. And some stupid people can be talked into behaving nicely if you just let them know it upsets you - without suggesting they're stupid for not knowing they shouldn't do that.

    On the flip side, he could be really handy for proofing/training/testing your dog to be nice around idiots. A training opportunity if you like.

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    The only reason i ever took him into the park was so he could play fetch in a large area because our back yard wasn't sufficient, he prefers his bike rides & walks so as long as he still gets those hes a happy boy. We try to get to the old park at least once a week.

    He use to get into ALOT of fights without the muzzle, with the muzzle on he became very submissive so he got into very few altercations with it on. He hated wearing it though and would spend the majority of 'park time' rolling around to rip it off. At the old park the dogs would leave him be & we would go to the far end to play fetch, at this new one all the dogs are curious about what he's doing, will chase him & at odd times steal his ball which is why he's gone backwards.

    I find it very interesting the reactions you are getting with a muzzle vs what i use to get. We use to have people cross the st, people would leave the park when we entered and alot would ask what it was for, but we were never teased about it. I'm not sure what breed dog you own, Rexy is a small dog but he has these eyes that look like he's constantly watching you - people comment about them all the time, he really looks... evil lol

    I agree with everybody else though, if he approaches you again report him

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