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    You do have to take into account that uncommon breeds are very unlikely in crossbreds, and that breeds share common ancestry and therefore genetic markers.

    For example a purebred rough collie may share genetic markers with similar breeds like bearded and border collies, but also with other breeds like borzoi, or large herding breeds like ovcharka. Not to mention Shetland sheepdogs, and onwards into Australian cattle dogs, Australian shepherds, the list is endless once you start. That doesn't mean that a rough collie is a cross of those breeds, but that way back when, similar dogs went into their formation.

    A basenji shares genetic markers with other primitive spitz types, the most common of which in Australian breeds would be a dingo. Dingo is behind the kelpie, koolie and the Australian cattle dog. And yes, other primitive spitz types also share behavioural traits like yodelling and licking. All those genetic markers are intermixed in varying levels depending on individual dogs and different family lines.

    While I think these tests are fun, I also think they are full of holes and not reliable in the least. If I had money to throw around I would love to get some done on purebreds to see what came back.

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    This is the video that made me not want to bother with DNA testing... I think I have posted it before maybe though lol prize winning APBT is apparently a border collie or something among other breeds


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    what do u need to supply?

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    This would be brilliant ammo for any pitty owners who are having dramas with BSL. Just get your dog DNA tested to prove it's somthing completly diffirent.


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    I'm going to look at doing it as a bit of fun, and to see what it comes back with.

    Just laughing to myself thinking about getting a swab from Ruby as you need to "press the swab firmly on the dog's cheek and rub the swab around for approx 30 seconds" ... this will be an adventure in itself ... dog will be thinking this is a great game as we both end up wrestling on the floor ... can I emerge as the winner with enough DNA matter on the swab ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean View Post
    This would be brilliant ammo for any pitty owners who are having dramas with BSL. Just get your dog DNA tested to prove it's somthing completly diffirent.
    Yes, really what could they say if a DNA tested pitty, comes back as a Chihuahua? I would love to be a fly on the wall
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    jadielee87, the test is quite different and the results are presented totally in a different way. Happy to send you the PDF file of the test results Hooch got so you can have a look at them.
    I dont know if the results are 100% accurate (although the lab does guarantee their results), I would LOVE to send a second sample for Hooch under a different name and see if it comes back exactly with the same results.
    It is alot of fun and I am very happy I chose to do it. I can see the Basenji colouring (though I never knew there was such a thing), I can see the Basset hound (we thought he was part Beagle so it made sense), We thought he was part boxer (so Bullmastiff makes sense)... threw me with the Rottie which ended up being the majority of one side of his parentage. I guess it all made sense. They had no photo of Hooch so there was no way for the lab to know besides the swab.

    It was a good experience for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean View Post
    This would be brilliant ammo for any pitty owners who are having dramas with BSL. Just get your dog DNA tested to prove it's somthing completly diffirent.
    Won't hold up. Apparently the genetic markers for APBT are not known/recorded/used etc. So although there was a rush by some APBT owners to get them done and have the certificate as a safety net, it's now commonly known that APBT won't show up on the tests.

    Shame though.

    Hence purebred APBT tests coming back as other stuff. Which makes you wonder, if it contains unknown markers, do they just make something up?? Seems a whole lot of guesswork involved in it generally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mymatejack View Post
    what would be really interesting is to take a pure bred dog(with papers to prove it) and get it dna tested and see what comes back

    I always wonder that too, and out of interest will one day get Pippi tested. I know she is a foxy/shih tzu x, but whats the bet thats not what it comes back as.

    OP, Id be interested to know if you also send a photo because Im wondering if they have chucked Basenji in there due to his colouring??? I mean, Basenjis will escape and roam from what I hear, but they arent exactly common dogs.

    Personally, I woulda guessed a boxer cross as he has the same colouring as my aoxer/staffy mix including white feet and a white tail tip. Regardless, hes gorgeous!

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    No photo at all. They had no idea what he looks like. Just sent a swab and a form with my details, his weight and his age. That is all they knew about us.
    So Basenji might be right because they got it with no prior info/photo and the colouring absolutely fits. Hooch is not an escaper though. He knows to sit when we open the door and does not shoot out.

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