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    Default My Mum and My Dog Attacked

    Having made reference to this in a thread elsewhere, I thought I'd best tell the full story- I'm quite sure there may be something to learn from it.

    Last Sunday evening my mother and I went out walking with V&F. As happens quite frequently now, as we wander and chat and 'catch up', each will handle one dog. On this night, I had Villi, mum had Flirtt. We'd been out walking for a couple of hours, the night was lovely, the dogs were calm and happy and it had been one of the nicest walks for quite a long time.

    On my own street, 3 houses from mine, an off leash Kelpie (it lives across the road and three doors up, so effectively this happened outside its own house) appeared from nowhere (it was dark), ran directly at Mum and Flirtt and simply latched on to Flirtt. There was no growling, no barking, no bouncing or backward/ forward movement. Just a swift, silent, focussed assault.

    Mum, on seeing the dog coming, moved in front of Flirtt and tried to shove her back behind a parked car for protection. We had been walking down the middle of the street as it is the best lit path in the dark and because it gives better view of what's coming. Despite trying to block, the kelpie latched on to Flirtt's face.

    At the time, all I could do was hold Villain back and watch my mum fight this dog off with her legs and the handle end of the leash (I use police leashes, so have heavy brass hardware on each end). I yelled to mum to let go and step back, but she refused on the basis that it would put more people and dogs at risk.

    Eventually, under mums onslaught, and by that time Flirtt was also fighting back, the kelpie let go and ran into its house yard.

    Mum copped puncture wounds to her hand, bruising to hand, arm, body and Flirtt has facial punctures. Both Mum and Flirtt received medical treatment. I did not get to bed at all that night (6 hours in emergency alone).

    The frustrating part is that I have asked the owner of this dog repeatedly to put her dog on leash. It enters my property and rushes the fence at my house behind which my dogs are contained. It has jumped on my mother's car to get at her little old dog sitting in the car. I've seen the woman struggling to walk the dog on lead, and doing 'yank and crank' with a halti.

    I've been polite ('Look, it would be great if you could put a leash on your dog'- first time) through to rude ('Are you a frigging moron? Put your damned dog on a leash'- 5th time) to no avail. This is the woman who has petitioned my neighbors to remove my dangerous dogs from the neighborhood, because they are Dobes.

    So, she now has a declared 'menacing' dog and has to have it leashed and muzzled at all times in public. Some fines, too, I believe. She has stated to council that 'she hasn't had a dog before and it's a steep learning curve'.... I ask why she never set foot on my doorstep (everyone round here knows I'm a trainer) to ask for help.

    But now I have a previously dog reactive dog who needs significant desensitisation to get her back to where we were after 18 months if time and money spent. We will start now at square 'minus 10'. My male dog will also require some desensitisation work.

    We can no longer walk the streets of our town freely for fear of encountering an off leash or unconfined dog. Our freedom has been considerably decreased by one stupid person too many. Every single day now is the stress of 'where can I take my dogs that I know I will be able to control the external environment around them?'. The answer is, of course, nowhere off my own property.

    The incident was 200% preventable, yet as it was happening I could do nothing to help my mum and my dog and save them the trauma. That is a mental image I will have forever, whilst the owner of the kelpie 'saw nothing'.

    My fury at people who refuse to leash or control their dogs properly is at boiling point.

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    Geez....That is awful. And I am sorry for your Mum and Flirtt. Hope all the wounds heal well. Seems amazing that the dog has only been declared a menace. What a great Mum you have, helping Flirtt

    I can just hope that all your previous training will help. I also had an attack on Annabelle in the midst of all her re-training and thought all was undone..but she was OK. Hopefully yours are the same. A good back-ground in training can often help in the recovery. Keeping fingers and paws crossed this is so
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    I am so sorry to hear of your Mum and Flirtt. It would indeed take the shine off of any walk!
    I have only just returned from the second training session with my (oops should say our) Missy and hubby in tow. Almost a case of the Marley movie! Not quite expelled but she is oh so exuberant. All dogs on leads, everyone trying to do the right thing. Except for my one encounter on the beach (albeit the dog was on a lead) I have not experienced or seen one dog off lead in my area. Except the escapee who was quickly captured and returned to very worried owner. It would seem that whilst responsible ownership is a prerequisite to purchasing or owning a dog--it is not always adhered to. I hope that you can find a safe place to build up confidence again. Hope wounds heal well for all.

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    Oh wow.

    Physically I hope they both undergo speedy recoveries - mentally, I kno wit's going to take an awfully long time.

    I am sure that you are up to the task of giving both doglets (and your Mum too) all the assistance they need, for as long as it takes, to get them back on the road to feeling safe and secure out and about.

    In the meantime, please speak to civil suit solicitor, because at the very least this person needs to be held financially accountable for the damage she tacitly allowed her dog to inflict - not to mention the costs of ongoing retraining associated with the attack - for everyone, you included. Your own radar will be on high alert too, and, really I think the only way to 'slap this woman upside the head' is to literally make her pay for it.

    {{{{{{{{{ Hugs }}}}}}}}} to all 4 of you.

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    I also had an attack very similar by a 2 pit x's but I was on my own with one dog, it was awful, it was dark, they also came without warning bit me first then attacked my elderly labrador. Council told me they were already confirmed dangerous dogs as they had attacked people, wildlife and other animals in the past. They went to court and recieved a fine!!
    They are owned by a mother and son who are 10 cents short of a dollar.
    Years after that incident i still see one of the dogs sleeping in their driveway, unfenced and unrestrained, I have reported this to the council and they say its ok as long as its not off their own property???

    As they live close to me, i now have to drive to safe place to walk my dogs....SHEEESH!
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    That sounds traumatising, for both dogs and humans. When I was a teenager our GSD was a attacked a few times like that by a rottie. Came charging out of nowhere and latched onto his throat. It is an awful feeling to go out walking after that, knowing that dog is still around. And if it was nerve racking for me, it was a lot worse for our dog, poor thing.

    I hope your dogs will get through this ok. And that the woman gets some help for her kelpie (for herself really, she clearly has not learnt enough about what her responsibilities as a dog owner are).

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    Cavalier, that sounds wrong. I am sure dangerous dogs ought to be secured at all times? Shouldn't matter if they are on their property or not, if they are not fenced in, they are violating the rules.

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    Thats what I thought, which is why I rang them on 4 different occasions to tell them it was loose, now i dont bother! That was there reply, which suprised me...and its still unrestrained today, I think everyone knows and dosent walk past the house to avoid it.
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    V&F what an awful experience!

    I can commiserate on the "not going off oyur property" thing very much. As you probably know, Pippi is highly dog aggressive and Barney is lead reactive to other dogs (i.e. off lead he loves other dogs) and it can be tricky getting some nice walks in when other dogs arent out and about. We always have to focus on our surroundings and be very aware of approaching dogs and it certainly ruins walks - hence we usually go very late at night or extremely early in the morn.

    Good luck with everyones recovery in all areas

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    not good to hear that, sorry you had that experience.

    Cavalier: thats definitely not right, Dangerous dog's must be contained/restrained. I would be taking that further.
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