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    Default Bonking dogs!.

    Pohm has lost her puppy license with Bernie, who is now riding her, often, noisily, whenever people visit, just in case they are considering making moves on his bitch etc.

    Their sexual relationship is taking over my home. There is a lot of oral, quite a bit of penetrative, no tieing.

    Im distracting bernie from his mission to shag her to death. Hes not truly focussed, and gives up the game readily enough. But any suggestions?

    edited to add: both desexed

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    i find it odd that two desexed dogs are able to have "penetrative sex"
    considering a bitch has most if not all her internals removed.
    and if she is desexed, could cause problems later if there is a tie.
    and dogs generaly keep growing in size, so if the pup is still young, then i'd be seeking professional advice from a behaviourlist about how to curb the behaviour.
    cause i've heard storys of a dog tieing with a desexed bitch.... turned out to be very costly for the owner.
    best to keep them crated and away from each other for a bit i recon.

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    Is Bernie mounting her when she excited? Or just whenever.
    Often older dogs will use humping as a calming behaviour, but without seeing it in context its hard to say. But if Bernie is doing it all the time even when the pup is calm then probably not that.

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    Maybe some vicks vapor rub on her tail.

    Be really consistent and as quick as you can in stopping him, ie walking between, blocking, distracting, sending him to his mat...

    Hopefully he will get the idea it's not the ok thing to do.

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    I would also time-out him everytime for a few minutes...it is very habit forming, just like all things dogs do.

    I would not ignore

    I would suggest getting some help.......it can also effect your younger dogs hips/stifles (the extra weight)
    Pets are forever

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    You could also look into the implant which is supposed to help with oversexed dogs. It works like a chemical neuter, though I'm not sure of the effects on already neutered dogs.

    He needs to stop right now before he causes some real damage to the bitch.

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    I have been breaking them up when Bernie starts. The behaviour is generally triggered by play, and thus Bernie asserting his dominance over her.
    Whilst Pohm is smaller in height than Bernie, she is like a wombat, a solid lump of muscle. Weighs more than Bernie probably, so this aint no frail pup is what im trying to say, she's 8 months old rottie x dogue de bordeaux brute.

    She is in charge of all food items, and can and does occasionally, forbid Bernie to eat with a growl from her bowl, as she see's him wander over to his. I now feed separately, as he cant afford to skip meals, she can!

    Toys: they play together, but Pohm can use force to take the toy, Bernie uses speed to get there first. Pohm generally has way less focus, so Bernie will wait for hours for her to drop her gaurd, then go get the toy.

    I'll put vicks on her tail, but i did try that last week with the dog tags for licence, they were chewed off by morning, so maynot work.

    Along with bonking her, he has been odd lately. My daughter in law has been visiting, and he cant leave her side, sits being stroked for her visit. This is unusual in a ball obsessed Bernie, who generally has a ball in your lap within 30 seconds of entering the premises type. It made me wonder if my daughter in law is pregnant, that's how odd it was. He's been very loving to to my OH too. Generally, im the one that gets this behaviour from him. Seems like a personality shift somewhat. I wonder what this is about for Bernie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bernie View Post
    I have been breaking them up when Bernie starts. The behaviour is generally triggered by play, and thus Bernie asserting his dominance over her.
    I think you need to read this
    Dumbed down by dominance, Part 1 - DVM
    Dumbed down by dominance, Part 2: Change your dominant thinking - DVM

    Most people take dominance out of context and attribute it to a dog as if it is a character trait. Dominance is not a character trait, it is a state of mind based around the control of a particular resource. ie: Dog "a" who is more food motivated may be "dominant" over dog "b" around food (ie: dog "b" will give up his/her food to dog "a") but dog "b" who is more toy motiviated may be "dominant" over dog "a" when it comes to toys (ie: dog "a" may give up toys to dog "b").


    The sentence I have quoted above makes me think that Bernie is using the humping as a calming signal. Because you state that he does it when she is highly aroused (excited) like when they are playing or when there are visitors.

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    Ive downloaded the articles Keira, gonna peruse over a coffee and get back to you.
    thanks for the links.

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    Brilliant articles, thankyou Keira.

    I agree with the article. I loved some of the history aspects.

    I live with a male, who dominates dogs. Dogs are obedient, and real fast!
    But the obedience, or correct requested behaviour, only exists when he is present. Without my OH there, the dog reverts to natural. Whereas a behaviour learned collaboratively through TOT, seems to stick, whether im there or not. Chasing ducks/chicks/geese for eg. Chicken got into my garden while we were all out, Chicken still alive after 7 hrs alone with my dog. Snake training completed TOT, no dead snakes in garden since.

    I think you are right, in that his humping is a 'calm down' signal. And clearly they have different motivators, as Bernie lets her win over food, she lets him win over toys. This fits their hierarchy of cool things.
    Pohm would really go for Bernie, if he did not back off at her warnings over food. Yet willingly allows humans to remove her bones/food etc.
    There is a hierarchy that shifts according to context it seems.

    With my dogs, i base my approach on: When you consider all the different lifestyles that dogs lead in the world, some are good, some are not so good.
    I try to provide a lifestyle, that would be in the top 10 from a dogs perspective. It has never been necessary to dominate my dogs. I have had Rotties, and GSD's, and high drive dogs. Attempting a Alpha roll on these would be reckless and cruel.

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