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    I took my old dog to chase rabbits regularly for years and it always cracked me up at how bad she was at it, Bernie. Especially if I took her JRT friend. They would make soooo much noise and while they had their heads - or in the JRT's case her whole body - stuck in a burrow, the rabbits would be running away in all directions behind them. But they loved it.

    It was only when my dog got to about 8 that she started to 'get it'. She usually killed one rabbit every time I took her then. She took to ambushing them instead of just chasing them when she saw them run. And I saw it as us doing our bit for the environment.

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    Yep Beloz, that head stuck down a hole, bum in the air, oblivious to all the rabbits running away on top. That's Bernie

    Pohm's head is too big to fit down holes, so tends to 'see' them first, but rotties dont run very fast do they, but they sound like thundering horses when they do, which alerts Bernie to the rabbit has run mate, go fetch!

    What a team!

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    I know rabbits are considered pests but I hope your dogs do a quick clean kill.

    I personally don't know if I agree with allowing our DOMESTIC PETS to kill with our consent. Actually it is not the kill which worries me - it is more the non-kill, play thing that many dogs (and cats) do.

    Beloz - possibly making an enemy out of you I have twice noticed your indifference towards animals. One a bird because it is dumb and then rabbits because of the damage they do to the environment. I hope your opinions would not cloud your judgement if you had an injured animal dying a slow death at your feet. I really hope you are going to give me a smack on the wrist (or a kick up the bum whatever you prefer) for making assumptions.

    And, yes, I am the bleeding heart. I am the sort of girl who took a tawny to the vets and then came home with a tawny, a lorikeet, a baby magpie and a cat!!! Unfortunately I see a lot of wildlife and ferals critically injured by pets every year and the owners indifference to the suffering of these injured animals completely freaks me out.

    Unfortunately I view us as living in a dog eat dog world (no pun intended). We appear to be so desensitized to the suffering of others.

    Beloz I look forward to your response and hope my judgements of you have been harsh and unneccesary.

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    I don't really see any need to defend myself as I don't really know you and I don't really care that much what you might think of me. But anyway...

    I grew up in a place where pretty much the only wildlife around were pigeons and sparrows. So when I came here I was absolutely thrilled to see so much wildlife, even in the suburbs. I used to try rescue every magpie chick that had fallen out of its nest. Until a ranger once told me that it was little use and I was actually doing more harm than good. If the magpie chick was left where it was, the parents would most likely still feed it and it had a chance of survival. If it was taken away, it would probably die of stress and the parents would have a good reason to become aggressive towards humans and stood the risk of being removed and PTS if they injured someone. The rangers also told me to leave the exhausted juvenile possums that sometimes got caught out in the open in the middle of the day to be.

    I love animals. All animals, big, small, dumb, clever, whatever. I know the names of all the birds that I see around here. I will still watch the possums in the backyard with a smile on my face and marvel at a mob of kangaroos hopping away. The cockatoos make me laugh and I will give the local magpies names and say goodmorning to them (seriously!). But I have learnt a lot about nature in this country. And nature is cruel. So I do not do bleeding heart. I don't think every animal should be saved no matter what. But I do believe in humane treatment. When I found an Indian Mynah in our pool, I brought it to the vet to be PTS. I have killed heaps of feral mice with one swift blow of the wrench.

    And I'm not going to cry over one dead bird, especially of a species that is overly abundant in our towns and could arguably be regarded as a pest - even though they are native. I do brake for the peewees when they stupidly stay sitting in the middle of the road when I approach in the car. I'm not going to kill it if I can avoid it. Though logically, I would do their species a favour by culling the ones that do not adapt to their environment.

    And yes, my dog killed a rabbit (or mouse) faster than a bullet. One quick shake and their neck was broken. And one less feral rabbit for the rangers to worry about.

    I don't think it is our role to be playing god. I trust nature knows what she's doing and can get by quite well without our assistance most of the time. And getting sentimental over it doesn't help anyone either.

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    And some people complain dogs not allowed in National Parks and other parks.

    My dog won't kill anything. Even the mouse that the trap caught but failed to completely dispatch. And what dogs and cats do to rodents is much nicer than what the poison does.

    All the same - in most states, allowing your dog (or asking your dog) to kill another animal can be against the prevention of cruelty to animals act. I suspect killing vermin is ok, but torturing mice and rats for extended periods of time - might not be ok.

    "causes the animal to be killed or injured by another animal"

    Not sure the status of rabbits and pigeons - I suspect they're vermin. But it's illegal to use a live rabbit in lure coursing... and Fox hunting is banned.

    So - I would not admit to doing these kinds of things in an internet forum.

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    One of my parents Danes was a serial killer. They have a fairly large property next to bushland so all sorts of wildlife would wander into the yard. We're not sure how exactly as there is 6 foot pailing fences the entire way around but nevertheless animals made their way in.

    The problem was she only liked to eat their heads, we would find perfectly intact bodies in the yard with a clean bite to the head. There were blue tongues, rabbits, native hens, even a wallaby once

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