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    I think you are asking for legal advise from pet owners which is risky.
    "take it up with my daughter" - you are the home owner, thus culpable, regardless if your daughter is a minor or an adult. As the home owner, you are culpable.
    You have a "danger dogs" sign up -( i had one up as a landlord), this increased my public liability insurance fee as they were dangerous dogs, but only by $12 per annum, so no biggy. But saved on unwanted intruders, so worth it.
    This was accurate in Victoria in 2009. Laws may of changed since then though?

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    I am not a lawyer

    But I did try to find any evidence that anyone had had to payout because they had beware the dog on their gate. As far as I'm concerned - it means "there is a dog, please shut the gate". The meter readers have been ignoring it anyway, and Frosty hasn't bitten any of them yet but either I've been home and caught her before they got to the gate (to the back yard where the meter is), or she's been locked in the house. One time one did get harrassed by her but she didn't touch him. These days I think she'd grab his ankle which might not go down too well. I sprung one naughty meter reader using the gate on the wrong side of the house, ie the one that is supposed to be blocked with a brick. So I now have "use other gate" on that one.

    I know people who have "beware the dog" and no dog.

    If you have a dangerous dog, you're supposed to declare it, keep it in a proper secure cage, pay lots of money to council to keep it registered and have "DANGEROUS DOG" signs on your gates. I reckon if you have a "DANGEROUS DOG" sign and the dog is not properly secured... then you might be in trouble. Not sure what happens if you have the sign and no dog. And dogs are entitled to defend their own property - all the states have exceptions to their dog attack rules that state this. But this does not apply to people you inviite on to your property.

    And as far as I know if you have a "beware the dog" sign on the gate - the meter reader Occ Health and Safety rules require them to come to your front door, ring the bell, talk to you and check the dog is secured, before going round the back. But they get 30 seconds per meter - so some don't bother.
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    even if it says Beware of the dog ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK

    I was told ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK makes you covered

    Yes I am telling you beware of the dog but I am also then saying enter at your own risk

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    ok I just made contact with the council and apparently the ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK

    I am covered..

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    Yes because you are in effect admitting there is a risk .
    I know its quite stupid but there it is *go figure*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Lady View Post
    ok I just made contact with the council and apparently the ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK

    I am covered..
    Thats interesting... where are you situated? Which shire?

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    I understand exactly what your saying but council just told me as long as it states
    ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK..

    Because yes the BEWARE OF THE DOG does tell people I have a dangerous dog
    and I am also telling you so enter at your own risk....

    I've told you but you want to enter and risk it....
    I was about to take it down until I called council..

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    Im not sure what this is about but I was just about to post that you arent covered if you have "beware of dog", but you are covered if you have "dogs on property (or similar), enter at own risk".

    Once someone sees that sign and enters, they have done it knowing there is a risk of getting bitten or whatever so its on their shoulders.

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    I would not take the council phone answering person's word for it. I can ask three different phone answering people, and then some people who ought to know what is going on at my council - and they really don't have much of a clue and some will make stuff up or repeat myths as fact because you get your "answer" and let them get on with important things like collecting parking fines.

    I can't even get a consistent answer on which parks are off lead or when, and what the hard ball sport rules are, or who is supposed to enforce them. Even the council management admit to never having read the policies and procedures that apply to the sections they're supposed to be running.

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    Agree with Hyacinth... the only opinion that matters here is the qualified legal one. So maybe invest in an hours consult or so with your town's top public liability solicitor and get a Written Opinion, based on precedent, current legislation and your individual situation.

    All our opinions are good for really is to confuse you! Get in touch with a professional who makes their living from civil litigants. Then decide what to do - or not - about your sign.

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