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    Hyacinth - How wonderful that poor poor fellow was found by those lovely (and wealthy) people. Yes there are some bad people but your story shows there are good ones among us as well.
    I always think karma will deal with scum like that...i do hope its true.

    But then Elvis died early and scammers live long and wealthy lives on yourmoney so who knows...lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    One of my friends told me a story about how she met a kelpie in the vet clinic - the owners found abandoned on the Hay Plains, with gun shot wounds to its head - they took it to the vet - and $30,000 it's their pet and they adore it and they're still spending money on it. Go figure.

    There must be some really bad people out there on the Hay Plains to do that to a dog. I'm guessing it was crap at herding but they might have been crap at dog training.
    Unfortunately training is only part of the equation when it comes to a good herding dogs. The right instincts and traits are inherited and if these are not there then the dog is probably never going to be much good regardless. Yes farmers shoot dogs that dont have what they need. The other option is finding the right home which is what some farmers will do but mostly not. My kelpie is one such dog that a farmer gave to me, she lacked force on his large mobs of sheep but suits my situation fine as I already have a BC with plenty of force and she is has other skills on small mobs of sheep.

    Glad the kelpie found a good home. Terrible that someone would shoot a dog in the head and then leave it half dead.

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    Hi, guys. Sorry I couldn't not get back to you guys sooner and thank you for all the replies.

    The vet said it is definitely cancer, and surgery and as well as desex will cost $850, he said she would live for another 10 or so years. However, I have many doubts, she already have three lumps, one big one and two small ones occurred in the last few months, so what are the chance of cancer coming back? I did research on the issue, desexing at her age would not really have any effect on the reduction in the chance of cancer reoccurring.

    I really don't know what to do, what if I spend the money on surgery and cancer coming back again?? I can't afford to do surgery every time a lump comes up, even then her quality of life would be low..

    I have to admit I was young, stupid and irresponsible, I should have researched before adopting her, and should had her desexed, I feel so guilty.
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    Don't waste your energy feeling guilty. You have very important choices to make. Either :

    1. You go ahead and get the surgery done
    2. You get a second opinion as to the expected life expectancy post surgery
    3. You talk to your vet about when would be the appropriate time to have her PTS, based on both pain and quality of life.

    Well thats the way i see it.

    Good luck and don't beat yourself up about it, it certainly won't change anything

    ETA : i'm no doc or vet but i would expect like with most cancers time is important and you probably need to make these decisions quickly to ensure the best outcome that you can afford/justify.
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    Quote Originally Posted by financialwar View Post
    Hi, guys. Sorry I couldn't not get back to you guys sooner and thank you for all the replies.

    The vet said it is definitely cancer, and surgery and as well as desex will cost $850, he said she would live for another 10 or so years. However, I have many doubts, she already have three lumps, one big one and two small ones occurred in the last few months, so what are the chance of cancer coming back? I did research on the issue, desexing at her age would not really have any effect on the reduction in the chance of cancer reoccurring.

    I really don't know what to do, what if I spend the money on surgery and cancer coming back again?? I can't afford to do surgery every time a lump comes up, even then her quality of life would be low..

    I have to admit I was young, stupid and irresponsible, I should have researched before adopting her, and should had her desexed, I feel so guilty.

    Chances of cancer coming back. Im taking this from my nursing of human knowledge, but i think the same rules apply for animals.
    some cancers are more aggressive than others. Some are spectacularly space occupying, as opposed to terminal.
    3 lumps, 2 of which are not diagnosed in your posts, could mean 1 cancer, and 2 ?
    Without the chemo, on top of surgery, an aggressive form of cancer is likely to return.
    If the cancer is in the lymph nodes PTS as chances of it not a) being a secondary that you have found or b) it has spread allready.
    You need to know what type of cancer it is.

    That the vet gives you a 10yr life span sounds like a good prognosis post op, and suggestive of a low lethality type. But that's a guess, as i wasnt there to question the vet, you were.
    dont beat yourself up over not desexing. The tumor is in the mammary gland, not her uterus, so you have not caused this, nor would desexinig of prevented this. There are thousands of breeding bitches in any country. They show a slight increase in uterine cancer risk, that's about it.

    I hope you come to a decision soon, as its the sitting on the fence that is the worst part of such a decision.
    Best wishes

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    My mums dog had several small mammary lumps found on her last vaccination check up. She was desexed at 6 months old, we were told this would decrease her chances of getting mammary cancer, but obviously, sometimes lumps occur anyway - so don't feel guilty about that, sometimes these things happen.

    My mums dog had the surgery to remove her lumps in November last year. So far she has been fine, with no more lumps, but only time will tell. The lumps were never confirmed as cancerous - mum never had them biopsied as the vet didn't feel it was nessecary.

    Have you asked how much the surgery will be without the de-sex? $850 doesn't seem that much to me for 10 extra years of your dogs life - I would pay much more. I think you need to call your vet and ask some more questions - about quality of life and likelyhood of it coming back.

    Good luck - I hope it works out for you and your dog.

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    I have to say I'm really surprised at the total - $850
    Think I might change to your vet

    It does seem quite a low amount for the long term prognosis given but I can understand your worry of the 'what ifs' of it coming back. The fact that the lumps are occurring at such rapid rates concerns me a little but again,your vet would be the one to know better. I guess if it was me I would go ahead with this surgery and take it from there , 10 years outweighs an awful lot of what ifs

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    Personally, for $850...I would go for it. Thats a first treatment, and as it is a reasonable price, you may as well give it a go.

    Thats a small price to pay even if they come back. You can always rethink the situation if they keep returning.

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    even if the cancer comes back you still got more time with your dog and know that you did what you could to help her

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    Quote Originally Posted by bernie View Post
    The tumor is in the mammary gland, not her uterus, so you have not caused this, nor would desexinig of prevented this. There are thousands of breeding bitches in any country. They show a slight increase in uterine cancer risk, that's about it.

    I hope you come to a decision soon, as its the sitting on the fence that is the worst part of such a decision.
    Best wishes
    Desexing before a dogs first heat heavily decreases the risk of mammary cancer to about 1%. For every heat she has thereafter the risk increases. If your dog had already had more that 3 or 4 heat cycles from memory the risk of breast cancer is similar to if they were never spayed.

    I would agree that if the vet will spay and remove the lumps for $850 it is a pretty good shot to take and with the chance of a lot more life is on the table I would take the chance. The future will then bring what it brings.

    I just paid $750 to have one lump removed that we found was caused most likely by a grass seed so you are getting good value I reckon.

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