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    I was just wondering if anyone has the numbers on how many dogs are being PTS in Australian shelters each year. I recently saw a figure about a PETA shelter in the States that puts down about 95% of all surrendered dogs. I knew there were many... but 95%?

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    Yes i've heard the same thing about PETA . I hear alot of bad things about this group and very rarely anything good. I HATE THEM WITH A PASSION !!! and i dont normally let things like this get to me but this mob do my head in.
    Peta Kills Animals


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    Yes, that's the website I saw. I don't think the source is credible in any way though. The Center for Consumer Freedom is a non for profit organisation created and funded by the Tobacco industry. But apparently the Fast Food industry pays their share too. Anyway, the center has their own agenda and is attacking routinely groups like PETA, Mothers against drink driving and other groups that oppose animal experiements etc. They are nothing but a lobbyist group really.

    Yet, the numbers are correct. I found the official numbers of the mentioned shelter in Virginia and in 2010 a total of 792 dogs were surrendered and 693 were put down. PETA opposes non kill shelters. They say it's more humane to put dogs to sleep that can't be rehomed, rather than having them spend the rest of their lives in a small cage. I find this really sad, but somewhat understandable.

    I was shocked by the high number though. It may be twisted... as I said I don't find the source trustworthy. Perhaps this particular shelter 'specialises' in ex fighting dogs...who knows. I don't. That's why I was interested to know what the numbers in Australia are. I read somewhere it's 200,000 per year but I'm sure there must be an official figure somewhere. If it's simliarly high than in the states I think there is a need not to hide it under the carpet but make it public. People need to know what they're doing if they dump their dogs in shelters.

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    Wow just made the mistake of going to their website. There's a video up the top titled - "if you buy a dog, what will you do with the shelter dog you kill?"
    Better yet, they have a free guide to help me convert my dog and cat to vegetarians and vegans so they can be happier.

    There are some things I agree with - I hate that seals are killed etc. But how can support an organisation to any extent that seems so crazy?

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    I would say it's more like 10%, I heard about 150,000 to 200,000 were being surrendered and 20,000 were being PTS.

    Pet subject inspires some big thinking

    ''We have 33 million pets in Australia,'' Professor Bennett says
    (not all dogs)

    Pet industry collars dodgy puppy farms - ABC Melbourne - Australian Broadcasting Corporation
    It will not stop dodgy puppy farms from selling in non-Pet Industry Association stores or even from selling online, but Mr Perkins says it is a start.

    "We know that each year in Australia there are up to 450,000 dogs sold, and of that only a very small percentage, say up to 15 per cent, are actually sold through a pet store," he said.
    I don't know how he knows this.

    http://www.dlgp.qld.gov.au/resources...sion-paper.pdf
    This is 2007 QLD paper but I'm sure there's been more recent stuff...
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    2006, the Animal Welfare League of Queensland euthanased 19% of dogs and 42%
    of cats received. Over the same period, the Queensland branch of the Royal Society
    for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (RSPCA) euthanased 43% of dogs and 67%
    of cats received.
    It also says 3 million households in Australia own a dog.

    I note the Census does not include dogs (but I included mine - other members of household - english not first language...).

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    So how do they know then how many households have dogs? If it does purely on microchipping and/or council registrations I feel that would likely result in a gross underestimate...

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    I think the rates vary greatly from shelter to shelter. I found this:
    "This compares with the national RSPCA average kill rate for unwanted dogs of 29% and 59% for cats.

    NSW Council Pounds average 39% for dogs and a whopping 68% for cats."
    (COUNCIL POUNDS | Australians For Animals - no references listed though)

    I read here at the ACT pound we have a very low kill rate. I can't find an absolute figure, just that they found homes for "92.6 per cent of the 1,397 suitable dogs", from their annual report. It doesn't mention how many dogs were deemed unsuitable though. And it's a bit cheeky of them to claim all the credit because I know for a fact that they would not be able to achieve this without the hard work of the local foster org's volunteers who temp test the dogs, advertise them widely and find foster homes for them before their time is up.

    PETA could learn a lot from that example because none of those dogs spends more than 2-3 weeks at the pound. I do know examples of dogs at the RSPCA of which I think it might have been more humane to PTS than keep them in a kennel for sometimes years. But 95%?!
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    Apparently a lot of the pounds on the northside of brisbane put them down..
    Dakabin is one for this..
    Redcliffe keep all their animals until they actually pass away due to old age..
    It is so so sad..
    I could never volunteer for them as I would bring all the dogs home...
    Seriously why do people just get rid of their pet just like that ??
    I know circumstances can change but please think of the animals well being..

    Very upsetting...

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    Thanks for all your responses. Seems there really are no final Australia wide figures/statistics on this. But at least it's good to know that it's nowhere near the 95% from PETA. I agree Beloz, PETA could really learn a thing or two...

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    Cant support an organization that renamed fish "seakittens" so as to make fishing seem cruel. Minorities with an agenda for the majority

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