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    Quote Originally Posted by Crested_Love View Post
    This is pretty much how designer dogs started. All these dogs will be crossed together to get the traits you mentioned but in reality you could end up with a dog that sheds like a Border Collie, has the energy of a Poodle, the bark of a Chihuhua, appetitie of a Frenchie and intelligence of a newt.

    Not directed at you Nashems, I know you would already know, but that's why people try and cross breeds most of the time and it backfires.

    I was just thinking if I were picking something to change about one of my breeds (Poodle) it would be that their coat doesn't grow (get sick of clipping it)... But there's a purebred that's already like that too (Irish water spaniel).
    But if you really tried to make it a new breed - as opposed to just crossing breeds? Not that it is a serious suggestion, but it could be done in theory.

    I'm so not fussy about my dogs... I don't particularly like the shedding (or the farting lol) but all I really care about is that my dog has a good personality and even that is very subjective.

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    Great idea for a thread. I plan to actually try to do this one day, depending on how my life turns out lol and whether I can ever escape from the corporate ladder and still have enough money to execute my plans.

    I want a dog like a Doberman, but with naturally erect ears and high pack drive, then defense drive, then prey, then food etc. As intelligent as possible, I am seeing way too many vague ones around at the moment Single coated, a thicker muzzle than what many of the showline dobermans have today and almond shape eyes rather than the slit shaped ones featured by most. There seem to be a lot of different interpretations on the doberman standard already - frankly I think you could argue a fairly well-supported case that new breeds are in development already just within the doberman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beloz View Post
    But if you really tried to make it a new breed - as opposed to just crossing breeds? Not that it is a serious suggestion, but it could be done in theory.

    I'm so not fussy about my dogs... I don't particularly like the shedding (or the farting lol) but all I really care about is that my dog has a good personality and even that is very subjective.
    Yep it sure could be done, but it would take a lot longer and a lot more effort than most BYB's are prepared to do

    I'm lucky in the shedding department... I shed more hair than my dogs

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    Quote Originally Posted by 99bottles View Post
    Great idea for a thread. I plan to actually try to do this one day, depending on how my life turns out lol and whether I can ever escape from the corporate ladder and still have enough money to execute my plans.

    I want a dog like a Doberman, but with naturally erect ears and high pack drive, then defense drive, then prey, then food etc. As intelligent as possible, I am seeing way too many vague ones around at the moment Single coated, a thicker muzzle than what many of the showline dobermans have today and almond shape eyes rather than the slit shaped ones featured by most. There seem to be a lot of different interpretations on the doberman standard already - frankly I think you could argue a fairly well-supported case that new breeds are in development already just within the doberman.

    Execute your plans? What are you...a mad professor?

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    Mad professor !!!! LOL LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by Crested_Love View Post
    All these dogs will be crossed together to get the traits you mentioned but in reality you could end up with a dog that sheds like a Border Collie, has the energy of a Poodle, the bark of a Chihuhua, appetitie of a Frenchie and intelligence of a newt.
    Ha! You are probably right. It'd turn out with a tea cup size body, border collie sized head, Frenchie ears and constantly fall over LOL - not to mention the fluffy Poodle tail.

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    Lol interesting choice of wording but that's what work can do to you...

    I think the hardest part about developing a new breed would be finding homes for all of the puppies. If you want to breed for more than one different trait, it could be a while until you're breeding true and how do you find enough good homes to look after all the ones unfit for the breeding program :s Especially in a breed like this where you could hardly describe them as easy dogs. With a few exceptions, most breeds were developed when culling was considered perfectly acceptable. I personally couldn't do that. So I'm not really sure how any new breeds will be developed now.

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    Why don't you just buy a cat? They are intelligent, have a high prey drive and have naturally erect ears lol

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    hmmmmmm a "dat" perhaps - it washes itself and catches it's own dinner, but is loyal, affectionate & enjoys a romp in the park ???

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    I don't know... maybe because it's a cat, and I don't see too many people having their cats accompany them on bush-walks, to the beach, compete in obedience, agility, tracking, protection and all the other things I like to do with my dog? I own a cat anyway and enjoy it for its catlike qualities. If I wanted a cat-like dog I'd buy a Spitz or Basenji or something but I don't, I want a doberman like dog with just a few differences. Besides, there are plenty of dobermans with crazy high prey drives. One of the most well-renowned breeders in NSW lost 2 of hers over a cliff and a dam chasing flying birds from which they couldn't be recalled :s Not interested in those dogs. You'll note that I specified pack drive as being of greatest importance to me (rather than prey) and I'm sure you agree, cats aren't exactly known for their desire to please us and work for their families unless of course you have been lucky enough to secure one of these dats.

    You could end up with the bad/undesired traits from all the breeds included, that's what makes it so difficult and take so long to create a new breed. The result of one cross-breeding is not a new breed. My doberman x ridgeback is just that, a doberman x ridgeback. A poodle x border collie x chihuahua x whatever else is just a dog/mutt. You would have to keep breeding the dogs you wanted (hopefully you get a few with the desired traits in some litters) until you got enough new dogs with the characteristics you wanted and enough to create a sustainable new breeding population so that with each mating, all the resulting pups exhibited the desired traits. It will take many generations, and you probably would have to focus on introducing/altering one trait at a time. But nothing wrong with people talking about what they wish they could have in a new dog. There are people out there breeding for new features all the time. Saying that there's already the dog for everyone out there is like saying there's enough songs for everyone already and no need to write anymore.

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    There are already a gazillion breeds of dogs, and you will not find enough homes for the litters of reject pups you will create on your mission to find the perfect dog. I just can't take this thread serious....reminds me of the mad dr in the "Human Centipede"

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