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    Quote Originally Posted by Beloz View Post
    Dogs are a delicacy in quite a few Asian countries, pbk. I don't have a problem with it as such - I know some of you might find that very shocking - as long as the animals are treated well, which in this case presumably they were not. And obviously it is illegal in Australia.

    I grew up on horse meat in Belgium. Lots of people here find that shocking too.
    In those countries dogs ( and other animals) are treated disgustingly.........As are most animals. you just have to see how the live chickens/pigs/goats are transported.

    It is extremely difficult to watch when you are over there, I hate it......
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    There were pictures floating around of a truck full of 1000 dogs going to slaughter for the Chinese new year. They were packed in like sardines.

    Sorry but I can't respect a culture that does that.

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    Unfortunately quite a few of the countries that eat dog as part of their culture have atrocious records when it comes to treatment of animals. I saw some absolutely shocking images of how cats and dogs are treated in Vietnam before they are killed for meat in a doco. The same doco showed how badly some cattle was treated in Western countries. It prompted me to become a vegetarian for a few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crested_Love View Post
    There were pictures floating around of a truck full of 1000 dogs going to slaughter for the Chinese new year. They were packed in like sardines.

    Sorry but I can't respect a culture that does that.
    So are cattle/poultry here in Australia & New Zealand? What does that say about "OUR" culture?

    I personally don't have a problem with people eating dog meat either - as long as the animal is treated humanely prior, and during the culling.

    I just think it's funny how people start blaming other countries on their methods of transportation and culling when we need to have a good look at our own. I use to work in at a beef works, and too often did i see overcrowding in the trucks, cows that couldn't even walk to the stun yard because they had been injured during transit. I don't think that is an enjoyable last hours of living at all.
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    If you have been overseas a lot like I have, you will see that the way animals are treated in Australia is much better. Even by the average farmer.......

    We raise stock...I believe in ethical treatment of all animals and I heavily push for better management/care of stock. Our animals lead a good life whilst they are with us. And we only allow the stock we raised to be killed at a specific place. This place has higher standards for killing and managements. So that the meat can be sold with the ethical label. It also means the beef is more tender, because the stock is not stressed at all. And the transport is also to a specific standard.

    It is very important to us that our stock lead a good life whilst they are with us.....We make every effort for them to lead a good life.

    I talk with a lot of farmers and they think we are barmy, but they are now seeing that we are doing quite well with our cattle, less sickness less time spent working with our stock and when we do have to move them, it takes no effort. One of us can move them easily.

    I now get some farmers asking us to show them how we do some of the things we do, especially the yard work. And we use our horses, not motorbikes or we walk them

    They are killed on a farm which has a mobile butchering plant, no abattoir stress and stun guns. These are fed and kept calm....shot (quietly, single shot no panic) and butchered. And a lot of people are happy to pay more for their beef for this method. The cattle are not lot fed ( I hate feed lots) and always in pastures. Of course during the drought, they are fed with hay/grain, but still in the paddock
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    Dogs and cats (like other animals and a lot of humans as well) are treated disgustingly in some Asian countries. I came to think that animal rights have to come with human rights though. I mean in a country that doesn't give a shit about their citizens you're fighting a lost battle talking about about animal rights. I do agree about our own culture though. My uncle was a very traditionally kind of bloke - quite the opposite of what you could call a 'tree hugger' . He was a trained butcher and passionate meat eater, however, even he refused to eat anything but his own stock in the past 20 years of his life because he couldn't stomach anymore how animals are being treated.

    I doubt pigs in a piggery are treated much better than dogs in China and I have stopped buying meat from 'non organic' sources. Yet, I'm still struggling with dog food. As I write, Nero is chewing one of his absolute favourite treats: a pig ear. Despite knowing where they come from I still buy them, just because he loves them so much. What do you guys do about this? A friend of mine buys free range chicken breast for her dog - but unfortunately I'm not that rich...

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    Fair enough newf, your doing an excellent job, however many famers aren't as ethical as you are. Many farmers care more for the "cheap" alternative of transporting & culling there stock than the ethical one

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    Free range chicken isn't that much more expensive these days than the caged alternative. In our supermarket anyway. I reckon chickens and eggs are a good example of the power consumers have to change farming practices by influencing the offer and demand mechanism.

    I would rather spend more money on 'ethically raised and killed" cattle than on organic, though I realise they often go together.

    And it is one of the reasons why I like eating roo meat too. At least they have lived in freedom doing what nature intended them to. Obviously raising cows like newfie does is pretty similar. I imagine cows are happy as long as they have their herd and can graze freely.

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    it has nothing to do with country, race or culture

    all animals deserved to be treated kindly and with respect, no matter what type of animal it is.
    I love a good steak but My Cattle are still treated kindly with respect.

    It's about how you treat them.

    Having said that, dog is going a bit far for me personally.
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