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    Any of the Breeders here have contracts on their puppies when they sell them ?
    Just curious what you guys think about contracts...
    I myself think if you are paying a lot of money for a dog you should have
    the right to do what you want with that dog.

    Many Breeders on other sites get right into this topic and fight over it.
    They believe all dogs must be placed on contracts to protect the buyer..
    Once told a long time ago, parents with perfect hip & elbow scores can still
    produce pups with low scoring or even HD.
    It's a win win situation and unfortunatley no one can be certain that anything can
    not go wrong.
    Parents with bad scoring can produce perfect score pups..

    A pup that jumps off & on the back of utes in it's young life can also get HD
    so personally I think if you have done health testing on both parents the new
    pup owner should be able to do what they want.

    If you have contracts could you post up the agreement so we could have a read...

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    What do you think of desexing as being part of the contract? Do you have anything in place the says they will get the dog sterelised at a certain age to stop BYB or is that at the new owner's discretion?
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    I seriously think that contracts scare off people ..
    What do you think ??

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    I have filled in contracts as a buyer...it goes two ways, not only for the buyer, but also for the breeder. Some have a de-sexing contract, some have a potential to use bitch/dog contract. Some have a choice of puppy if you have a litter and they will have input in who the bitch is bred to. I have no issues with any of it, as long as it is all up front. I use my breeder as my Mentor, so i would be guided by her if I bred anyway. the last few dogs i have had form her have been without contracts, because we are now friends and trust one another......I agree, environment can still cause some of the problems. I think though if it was my first puppy from a unknown breeder, I might be more comfortable if a contract was considered. We also had to sign for our first dog that we would not sell the dog on or re-home it without contacting her. If our puppy was not considered show standard when it developed we could have been considered for another pup ( could never do that) and there were some health considerations too. Also some stipulations on what was expected from us.

    I love the fact that it scares some people off...The determined person will stick it out and be hopefully a considerate good caring owner, who has thought everything out. I have also been to places where the newfies were just to first one in best dressed. I thought that was all about the $$$'s even if it was not a Puppy-Farm or a BYB
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    Well this somthing i've been a bit worried about. I am meant to get Mojo desexed at 6 months. He's about 8 days away from that. My vet thinks most dogs should be done at about a year old, i cant remember exactly why but at the time it sounded like good advice.

    My last dog was desexed by the RSPCA at 6 weeks old. He was a bit of a wuss when approached by bigger dogs and always squatted to pee like a female even at age 14. While this never fazed me (i enjoyed not having a aggressive dog) i often wondered if he was missing out on his manhood as such ??? I dont want to breed at all even though i think he's a pretty fine dog and others have asked if i'd consider it down the track. I just want whats best for my dog. As a bloke it's a bit , well....seems kinda wrong to snip em just as they are starting to drop.
    For the health of my dog should i wait? My vet says i should.


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    Contracts for the most part don't mean jack.

    Co-ownership is just about the only fool-proof way to sell a dog with limitations. However the average dog owner just goes along with a contract so they are a good idea providing your buyer isn't too law savvy.

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    get your free legal advice here...

    the people with the most to gain from contracts are the lawyers.

    It might be handy if you want the puppy / dog back if the first owner decides they don't want it any more. Ie prevent it going to the pound or give you a claim if you find it advertised on gumtree. But then that would be more like a lease contract than an sale contract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean View Post
    As a bloke it's a bit , well....seems kinda wrong to snip em just as they are starting to drop.
    6 months is the best time to desex. If you don't want him to lose his balls you can get prosthetic testicles ... Neuticles.com
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    I was watching it's me or the dog a while ago and there was a guy with a bull terrier who didn't want to get him neutered because he felt bad for the dog... Well this dog jumped on and humped people left right end center, it was so bad they had to call in the experts (obviously as it was on the show). They gave him the snip and the behavior stopped.

    Dog's don't have an emotional attachment to their balls like men do.

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    I saw a JRT x go through adolescence with his balls intact and thought it was just plain sad. All those hormones are just useless to a domesticated dog because they are not allowed to act on their instincts. So all it does is cause frustration. So personally I think it does more bad than good to wait.

    Sorry LL, this post has gone totally off track!

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