yeah ive come close to kicking a dog before..... dont think i could do it... but thats just me.... id happily kick an owner before a dog.
In my previous life (before I had a dog) I used to go running in our little reserve, which I have now identified myself as 'doggy area'. Anyway...back then I found it actually sometimes a bit disheartening how confident some dog owners took over the reserve.
One day when I was running down a path a fat Lab appeared out of nowhere and started barking and growling at me. It blocked my path and showed me his (rather impressive) teeth. Even I, not knowing anything about dogs, realised that this dog does not 'just want to play'. Anyway I just stopped and stood still. The owner was down the hill taking her time to make her way up while chatting to a friend. She clearly saw me standing there but did not react. I actually had to yell at her to call her stupid dog back. When she finally did, it became clear why she had not bothered... her dog totally ignored her. It didn't even turn its head but was just standing there glaring at me.
When the owner finally made her way up (it did take her a while) she asked 'What is it? Are you scared???' I wanted to slap her! Then she continued 'Don't worry, he is a big sook...' As it turned out the owner did not have a lead with her and zero control over her dog and since they had no intentions to leave the reserve I had to in the end.
We get joggers in our dog walking area and I don't mind at all. From the first time I took Banjo there, I would call her to me when I saw a jogger approach. She got so used to it that she would come to me for a treat sometimes before I had even spotted the jogger.
It's only people just hanging around and having picnics and stuff that I find a tad annoying.
I think coz it's a "rich" area the non dog ppl can be quite snobby... We had a few kids who Josie went up to and the ran away squealing so naturally as she was a pup at the time Josie went bouncing after them thinking they were playing..I said to the girls "just stop running and screaming and stand still and she will stop chasing you" and the dad goes to me..
"well maybe you should have your dog on a lead" I responded "no mate this is a dog beach she's allowed off the lead"
He said "well it's a human beach too"
I said "yes and if you can't get along why don't you walk around the point to austinmer beach where dogs arn't allowed"
Jerk! There's not many beaches where dogs can run why don't these non dog ppl go to one of the many thousands of other spots dogs are prohibited... It's annoying
No offense Elle, but I think it is fair that people can expect dogs to not chase their kids whereever they might be. I have a problem with this too with my dog who just loves people so much and does not know the meaning of personal space. So I am really focusing on training in that area. Both recall and LAT to prevent her from jumping up on people who may or may not like dogs. In situations where I didn't/don't trust her to be under my control, I will put her on the lead, regardless of whether she is allowed off lead or not.
But yeah, only having doggy people at off leash areas makes life that little bit easier for dog owners. Unfortunately there is no rule against them being there and I don't really question their reasons for choosing that spot over other spots.
I agree Beloz...
I love dogs, and I love dogs to come up and say hi in the right way....and chasing children is not the right way. Id have been peeved if I was the dad too.
Also though, some people just shoudnt let their dogs off lead. Just because it is a dog offlead area does not mean your dog has to be offlead. I never let Pippi offlead in public. She just wouldnt come. Her recall is near perfect round the house FINALLY (to the point that if she escapes out the front door and oyu call her she will come right back) but in public, I wouldnt trust it yet so she doesnt go offlead regardless of where we go.
Ok let me clarify, this was when she was a little puppy (9-12weeks) she wasnt "chasing" them as in they weren't sprinting away she was just following them inquisitively as any pup would they squealed and dashed a few steps and she playfully followed she didn't jump up on them or hurt them a tall.. I think it's important for parents to teach kids how to behave with animals..especially if they're going to go to dog off leash beaches, my dog is very obedient but I usually assume beng at an off leash dog area I can let my dog be her friendly, kid loving, playful self and say hello to people and other dogs walking by..wasn't That the point of the OP?
Last edited by elle.burns; 01-20-2012 at 08:40 PM.
My mates kids where the same. I knew they where scared of dogs so i gave them the opportunity of coming around while Mojo was just a little puppy so they could get used to him but they ran away screaming and carrying on. Of course Mojo thought it was all part of a big game and gave chase, only making matters worse. The parents didnt do much to help the kids understand why he was chasing them or how to act around him. They are even worse now than before with any dog no matter how big or small. It's thier gun fight now.... i tried my best.
The whole country is surronded by beaches yet we can only use a tiny % of them for some of lead fun. I reckon non doggy peeps should read the signs and go elsewhere, especially if there is another beach very close by.
At my fave park - there were two little kids - maybe four or five yo, and they ran up to Frosty screaming and then turned around and ran away screaming. Fortunately for me - Frosty was freaked out by their squealing and ran back to me and I put her on lead just in case. And then the kids did it again and again. So I went and explained to their parents what would happen if they did that to any dog but mine. Even a Labrador would chase and bounce on them for that. And a couple of the regulars at the time incuded a resource guarding staffy x and a pharoah hound x that would chase and pin anything that ran. Those two dogs don't visit any more and neither do those kids. And good riddance.
Sean - next time you want to introduce scaredly people to a dog - put the dog on lead and get it to lie down and stay down and then control the people's approach, so they approach slowly and don't do anything sudden - ie they can show some self control as well as the dog. Otherwise - it's best they get used to the dog from a distance. Same as you keep the dog at a distance from distractions that can overwhelm it.
Fair enough Elle. I must say I roll my eyes when I meet kids who display an irrational fear of dogs and start screaming when one comes anywhere near them. Apart from anything else, it's not very practical as dogs are and well always be part of living in any town or city.
And I blame their parents for not teaching them how to react to dogs and they're not doing them any favours.
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