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    I'm still trying to stop my 7yo from continuously confusing the dog... Much harder than getting the dog to do what I want!

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    This thread went from light hearted "does your dog love someone else" jokey kinda stuff to a serial discussion.

    Like belo, I dont think heirarchy comes into it...always. We dont live in a pack structure in our house. There is no "boss". Eve between us and our kid really....its a hard concept to explain.

    In regard to the work example, I disagree. I dont automatically become "deferential" or anything when my immediate superior, or the VP, or even the CEO is around. At my work place it is encouraged that everyone is equal and their opiions are valued no matter where you are int he food chain. In fact, my immediate superior doesnt even make the decisions for our team on his own...we are all included and only if we come to a group consensus is a decision made. So I dont get tense when my boss is around ...or whatever you said.

    And our house is the same...everybody gets a say.

    I had more to say but I cant remember all the posts so I wont continue for now lol

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    I don't think dominance doesn't exist in dogs, but I think it's a term that is used far too often to explain away just about any behaviour our dogs display. Jumping up on people? Dominance. Stealing food? Dominance. Pulling on the leash? Dominance. IMO in reality a truly dominant dog is rare.

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    Agree smeagle...for sure it exists, but liek you say used far to much to explain away behaviours

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    Hi Pawman

    So you'd be a total failure at "herding cats". Ie you've never worked in IT. The way I like to work is to have a network and who ever is best at a given task or likes it best - they're the ones that do it. If they have more expertise - we defer to what they say - whether we're higher up in the pecking order or not. Too many "I'm the boss and what I say goes" make easily avoided mistakes because of it.

    I agree sometimes - there's no time for a polite wrapper to the command for what needs doing or the time for doing it is gone (eg team sport - you don't have time to say please mark the winger - take three steps left, if you don't mind, thank you) cos winger will have run away with the ball and scored before you finish.

    But I frequently don't understand why dog trainers who well understand the value of using rewards in training - don't use the same techniques in training people. It can be shocking to watch. The dog is getting pats and praise and the human is getting called stupid and don't do this don't do that, and not one word on what they should do. And yes heirachical types - hate me.

    reward based training - is not the same as letting the dog do what ever it wants and waiting for it to accidentally do something you do want and rewarding that. It's about controlling the choices available to the dog. And making the cboice you want - easy for the dog to figure out. And rewarding that.

    I'm not into the Delta dog training stuff - I think that is slow and unreliable too.

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    HAH! Yeah been there. It can be quite painful.

    We had a dog once that just adored my Dad. He was hardly interested in her, although he always remembers her as the best dog he ever knew (which he was happy yo say to me from time to time, which used to seem a bit tactless). It used to hurt me a bit, because I ;played with here and helped feed, which he never did.

    I reckon that there are a few things. A dog will decide the "adore" a person for reasons that we do not really understand: from feeding through to simple "familiarity breeds contempt", to "I know I have you, because you are telling me all the time", to simple pheromones!

    My present girl Tess will "punish" me (often just because ....because...) at the dog park by ignoring me and going to anybody else, then standing taking affection while watching me. She will also ignore other dogs when like this. She often also refuses to talk to me when I leave her at home, and will go to the extent of walking right past me and looking keenly for ANYONE else to be there to greet. This happens even I come home with my wife, who of course also left the dog at home.

    So I have learned not to get jealous (well not very) if these things happen and try to even see them as a compliment. - I am already "caught" and no more needs saying.
    - I am the one that really matters, and is therefore worth punishing
    - closeness to a dog also involves being some inconvenience to the dog, whereas a more casual relationship has no silly demands like sit, or stay or stop barking so much etc.
    - I feed the dog, so I am sometimes more attractive than others!

    etc...these are the little things I use to comfort myself, but I feel they have some truth
    My previous dog taught me not to be too jealous.I realised that she gave such wonderful times that I had enough to share around. My current girl just confirms that............most of the time, unless I am down
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    Well the rug rats have gone to the oldies for the holidays.......it's so quiet and peaceful but kinda strange at the same time.

    Guess who's turned into Daddy's boy and watches my every move ??? Yep my pup loves me again !!!

    No doubt i'll get ditched in a weeks time so i'm making the most of it !! Morning cuddles in bed and lotsa play play time........with the dog that is !! now to convince the wife to do the same thing. LOL


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    Hahaha now is your chance, you have to hook him in and show him how much better daddy is!

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    No, I'm sorry, but dogs choose the ones they love, and sometimes it's us, and sometimes it's not. Hurts like hell when it's not us, especially when it's our doglet that we love and adore, and want the same in return.

    I've told this story to Lucky Lady when she was wondering which of her new baby doggies to keep - let your dog choose you. You will never lose their affection to another...

    Doggies have a 6th sense when it comes to people... your daughter is your doggies echo. They will be bonded more deeply than you and him until the day he crosses Rainbow Bridge. I'm sorry, I don't mean to be mean or rub your face in it, because I know from reading your posts that you would take a bullet for your doglet... but he would take one for your daughter.

    The heart wants what the heart wants. Which sucks the big one sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lala View Post
    This thread went from light hearted "does your dog love someone else" jokey kinda stuff to a serial discussion.

    Like belo, I dont think heirarchy comes into it...always. We dont live in a pack structure in our house. There is no "boss". Eve between us and our kid really....its a hard concept to explain.

    In regard to the work example, I disagree. I dont automatically become "deferential" or anything when my immediate superior, or the VP, or even the CEO is around. At my work place it is encouraged that everyone is equal and their opiions are valued no matter where you are int he food chain. In fact, my immediate superior doesnt even make the decisions for our team on his own...we are all included and only if we come to a group consensus is a decision made. So I dont get tense when my boss is around ...or whatever you said.

    And our house is the same...everybody gets a say.

    I had more to say but I cant remember all the posts so I wont continue for now lol
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