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    Sorry to hear about your neighbour trouble. Would it help if you took your dogs for a long walk every night. Maybe they will settle better that way. My dog is very quiet, sleeps inside, and when he does bark it is only one low slow woooolllfff. It's a treat for me to hear him bark because it is so rare. Even so, I had a neighbour who lives 4 houses away complain about my dog barking at night. I tried to explain that it was not my dog but she said "as long as it doesn't happen too often". So annoying. I've been pulled up about poop in the street as well and you can see I carry a bag and you can see me picking up after my dog. But as my hubby said, the neighbours see me walk my dog every day and he is a big boy who stands out, every poop in the street and every bark they hear - they just think of the dog they see being walked. No wonder I prefer dogs to people sometimes. So I feel your pain. I hope things settle for you. What ever you do, try not to bite back, it's not worth it, try to ignore them.

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    Sorry to hear about your neighbour trouble. Would it help if you took your dogs for a long walk every night. Maybe they will settle better that way. My dog is very quiet, sleeps inside, and when he does bark it is only one low slow woooolllfff. It's a treat for me to hear him bark because it is so rare. Even so, I had a neighbour who lives 4 houses away complain about my dog barking at night. I tried to explain that it was not my dog but she said "as long as it doesn't happen too often". So annoying. I've been pulled up about poop in the street as well and you can see I carry a bag and you can see me picking up after my dog. But as my hubby said, the neighbours see me walk my dog every day and he is a big boy who stands out, every poop in the street and every bark they hear - they just think of the dog they see being walked. No wonder I prefer dogs to people sometimes. So I feel your pain. I hope things settle for you. What ever you do, try not to bite back, it's not worth it, try to ignore them.

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    Ok, if the dogs cannot be contained inside, then I believe you have three options;
    (least preferred to most preferred)
    * rehome your dogs
    * debark your dogs
    * set up a structured, consistent training program with the assistance of a local dog trainer. Why training? Because it leads to more manageable, disciplined dogs (no, I don't mean robot dogs). Training can teach your dog to think about the behaviors he/ she has available and to make the best choices. Engaging in good quality obedience type training with your dog increases your dog's confidence and competence, enhances your bond with the dog and reduces stress, anxiety and frustration within the dog. I'd teach lots of things- and training is a daily activity you do with dogs- but I'd also be teaching the 'bark on command' just as Hyacinth suggested.
    I'd be implementing a NILIF (Nothing In Life Is Free) program and reading up on lots of dog behavior articles here;
    K9 Pro The K9 Professionals; Dog Training and Behaviour Site
    www.dogstardaily.com.au
    To help you firstly understand your dogs' behavior and social needs and secondly to help you implement the best behavior modification strategies.

    I would also be building a special containment area in your backyard that your dogs could be put in at night. This would be ideally away from the fences to make it harder for the neighbors to throw poison into and would include sheltered sleeping quarters for the dogs. Because it would limit a bit of their freedom at night, this could reduce barking behavior- but be warned it might not do so without the training component. Perhaps you have a verandah area close to the house where this could be built? Dogs love to be close to their human pack and not isolated- inside is best, outside near the house is second best.

    This sleeping area could slso be locked to prevent being let out during the night- peace and security for you to get some sleep.

    To be honest, I think this sounds more like a dog management issue than simply a barking one. I'm not deliberately trying to offend, but owners of dogs who 'live outside' often experience more behavioral issues than ones who live 'inside' or 'inside/outside' UNLESS the humans spend a great deal of time outside with them interacting, stimulating and leading.

    I don't recall reading what types/ breeds they are? I only ask because some breeds/types have generalisably different preferred training methods etc.

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    I really dislike barking dogs, especially ones that are disturbing others at night.

    They are your animals. The neighbours have tried to discuss it with you before going to council- which I think is the proper way to act.

    You dont want to bring them inside and you dont want to pay to replace the sonic collars, I really dont get why the neighbours are the problem here? Maybe they are throwing stuff into your yard trying to get the dogs to shut up or in frustration?
    Our neighbours have 2 dogs that will bark without drawing breath for up to 7 hrs at a time- and they are at home with them locked out in the yard. I can fully understand frustration of listening to others barking dogs.

    The color of your neighbours skin has nothing to do with anything- I find your attitude very strange.

    It seems that you want to stop the neighbours from complaining but dont want to find a solution that involves you having to take any responsibility or do anything. You chose to get 2 dogs. You are responsible for their well being and their behaviour. You live in a society with other people close by. simple. Keep your dogs quiet at night.
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    I am gonna go with puggers option....

    Personally, it sounds to me like you are full of excuses for not dealing with the behaviour and you think the neighbours should just put up with it.

    I LOVE dogs but I cannot stand a constant or nuisance barker (we have one at the neighbours). My dogs are not allowed to bark for no reason and if for any reason they wont shut up (which doesnt happen) they are either brought inside with us, or put away in the washhouse where they have nothing to bark at.

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    Your partner doesn't want crates inside and you don't want to crate train them so they don't whimper... I really can't blame the neighbors either knowing you aren't willing to even try other alternatives. You know you live in a noisy neighborhood, dogs get interested in noises. The best option is to remove temptation and to remove temptation you need to remove the dogs from the yard.

    I am usually very tollerant of other peoples dogs but even I have stuck the hose on our neighbors dogs before. It's ruddy annoying and if you aren't willing to make a small, yes SMALL compromise of crating at night then I agree with puggers post.

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    sounds harsh, but with some of the comments the Op has posted and some of the excuses, it reminds me of one of those today tongiht stories where they think everyone else is the problem.....

    put the effort into your dogs and they will reward you........if your worried about peeing or pooing in the house, toilet train them,....... you say you have kids, when they were toilet training, and you had to clean up their mess, did you ever lock em outside cos you couldnt handle the smell etc......

    yeah your partner may not be up for it etc etc,............... but then you need to think about wheater having a dog, let alone 2 is right for your house?

    at the end of the day, the suggestions that have been put forward to you have all been very constructive and helpful, it jsut seems that you are either not willing to try them, or jsut looking for excuses to blame others.......

    i really hope that your dogs dont end up harmed cos you didnt try to help em.............rememebr there is no easy fix........and at the same time, we cant help people who arent willing to help themselves.....
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    Was going to go into a huge rant but I just don't have the energy. Rehome the dogs so that they actually get the chance to have an owner who deserves them and will give them the proper attention and care they need.
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    Yes I agree, you need to start recording (even in a diary) all events to show the council if things get there via a complaint. Been in this scene before with shocking neighbours, it made my life hell. So I moved out and moved into a property with no neighbors LOL actually I do have neighbours but once they complained to me and it made life uneasy between us which they found out when they asked what was wrong? dah? I think they prefered ambiance between us and never said a boo again. but my neighbours are great, but in saying that we don't live close. Good luck, but diarising every thing is the go. And video it if things get ugly so you can prove what's going on. Neighbours.

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    We just moved house, our dogs dont bark unless they see something extraordinary like an univited guest in the yard, not birds and stuff... when we moved in one of the neighbours was using my driveway to park his car in (within our property) (i know right!!!) so i asked him to move it please and thanks...my friend who was with me told me I shouldnt be so horrible to the new neighbours and I should do this and that and I should make and effort to get on with them because....they might poison my dogs....at the time I thought what a joke, as if LOL...then I thought more and I thought...wow when you move in with 3 big dogs like mine you need to make peace with the neighbours and smooth the way for a big doggy welcome.... Well i went to my immediate neighbours and got to know them and told them if they dogs EVER annoy them to let me know, the one i told to move his car I made a big play of waving and saying hi and we seem to be getting on fine now....

    ok so whats my point....if you upset these people enough they may do something horrible like that!! they may even just throw something at the dog that he eats and it hurts him...they may let the dog out, they may do all sorts of things to the dogs...you need to make peace with them if you can....they may be the most horrible pieces of work ever but know your enemy i say!! you need to get to a point where you can say "i think sometimes the dogs bark because things 'fall' over the fence" lol. Continuing the aggravation i only going to end badly....

    Your other option is to move...but if they bark due to not being trained right you just move the problem with you.....

    Your other option is to let them sleep in your house..... of all of the above choices, this is my preffered....which again means you may have to move.....I hope you get the outcome you need but it will take work, no matter what way you look at it.....
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