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    Pretty much Margoo. We have a lovely big area we are allowed to let the dogs run in (pony club X country grounds). Tracks, bush, rabbits, dam etc etc. But we don't go near it in summer - much to the dog's disappointment!! They drag off towards the gate every time we walk past but I just wouldn't risk it. We do have a fenced oval where they can run which is just mown grass and safer.

    Really early morning might be ok, so long as it's not warming up a little and they're out to catch some early rays!

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    I really dont like killing snakes and any I see on my property outside the yard I just stay still and it will move off.

    In the yard is different and if I kill it is with a very quick blow. Our nearest snake man is a 500km round trip away so that is not an option and help for a snake bite is a 200 km round trip. Last year a child on a nearby farm died when he was bitten, they couldnt get help to him fast enough. A man also died. So it is not something any of us mess around with given the distance involved. Probably most farmers I know out here lost a dog to a snake at some time. The majority of farmers dont go out and kill snakes unless they are in the yard and often shooing them out is not possible.

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    I've seen my old dog do the same, Margoo. She used to cautiously sniff the snake (not actually touching it) but then always backed off. But we are lucky that the snakes down here seem to be pretty "nice". They always seem to do a warning strike first, which was always enough to make my dog retreat.

    Banjo has yet to meet her first snake, but I think she'll be pretty similar. She met an echidna the other day and as soon as he put his spikes up she jumped back in fright.

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    Quite shocked at the numerous responses "ill just take to it with a shovel" i dont like them or many other australian wildlife but doesnt give me the right to go ahead & kill it.

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    I'm jumping in the deep end here folks and i really don't want to upset anyone or step on any toes so i'll start off my saying BE CAREFUL and always opt for the safest otion first; AVOIDANCE.

    Do any basic OHS or safety course and they will always tell you the most effective way to stay safe, whole and sane is to avoid the danger in the first place.
    Keep your dog ON A LEASH if you don't have good recall or teach your dog to STAY AWAY FROM SNAKES. I promise to stay away from the caps button now, really. Just buy some plastic snake toys and cover them with foul tasting things; chilli, alovera, etc. and teach your dog that they are to be avoided at all costs. If you have a friend that has pet snakes ask them to join in so your dog can relate this to living animals too.

    I keep pet snakes, all pythons and all friendly. Knowing that my dogs associate snakes with my pets i never let them roam off leash away from me where i can't see well enough ahead of us to know there are no snakes in the vicinity. As a snake keeper i frequent reptiles forums as well, and can unfortunately tell you that, no, snake repellers other than sonic ground units so not work. Snakes have no ears, keep that in mind, nor do they dislike citronella so don't bother with that either. Sonic units frighten them away, so use that to your advantage and stomp heavily when you are out walking.

    Traps are not a good idea, especially the suggestion of cans with something inside to attract the snake. This won't do anything other than attract the snakes to your property! If a snake can get into a can it can generally get out and you are more likely to catch and kill a harmless python or lizard (or other furred critter for that matter) than you are a venomous reptile.

    Your next thing to do is to educate yourself on what to do if your dog (or yourself) does get bitten by a snake. St John's Ambulance is easy to google, read it, learn it, teach your friends. Then educate yourself on identifying pythons and other venomous species so you know where danger lies.

    Finally, make your home safe too. Remove any unecessary undergrowth from your garden, keep grass short, remove any rubbish piles or iron roofing/tiles/woodpiles/bricks, etc. and don't leave your flyscreens open!

    I could rant for days on this.

    One last thing. Yes it is illegal to kill any native animal species including venomous snakes UNLESS (there i go again) you (or your property, which obviously is intended to mean your pets or livestock) are in a life-threatening situation. Yes, the vast majority of bites occur when someone tries to kill them to keep that in mind. You're better off keeping a clear plastic (very large one, mind you) box handy in the garage or toolshed to place over the top of the snake rather than get close enough to kill it with a spade. Then you have it handy, contained and visible for you to call the snake catcher. Obviously try to provide some shade for the poor thing once it's in there otherwise it will cook before your help arrives. It is NOT illegal to release caught reptiles, whoever said that was simply wrong (not meaning to be rude) you cannot release CAPTIVE animals (such as my captive bred, raised and kept pets) because they could introduce disease to wild populations.

    Anyway. rant over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shooshoo View Post
    I'm jumping in the deep end here folks and i really don't want to upset anyone or step on any toes so i'll start off my saying BE CAREFUL and always opt for the safest otion first; AVOIDANCE.

    As a snake keeper i frequent reptiles forums as well, and can unfortunately tell you that, no, snake repellers other than sonic ground units so not work. Snakes have no ears, keep that in mind, nor do they dislike citronella so don't bother with that either. Sonic units frighten them away, so use that to your advantage and stomp heavily when you are out walking.

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    That is interesting. After having to kill a brown snake that ventured into my yard where I have 6 dogs, I bought a couple of those sonic , vibrating repellers. I have no wish to kill snakes but because I live so far from help and a neighbouring child died last year I will not take any chances.

    I have them stationed outside the 2 gate areas which are really the only entry points to the yard gievn it has solid fencing all the way round. This morning I went out and I have a very clear area because of bush fire threat and could see snake tracks on the bare earth. They were outside the perimeter of th effective area of the snake repellers so hopefully that is a good sign (although I am still a little sceptical) as I really dont like killing them. It for me is a last resort.
    Last edited by Kalacreek; 12-31-2011 at 06:13 PM.

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    Yes the snake repellers are great. Until they stop working and nobody from the place you bought it from will contact you with how to change the batteries and they are rendered useless. Does anyone on this forum have these too that they can give me instructions on how to change the batteries? Yes they are solar powered but they also have batteries that need replacing, mine are about 3 yo. Wish I could find out so I could get them going again.

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    Have you changed the batteries in your repellers yet? I'm after info on how to do that, they almost look soldered on. Mine aren't working and the company won't reply to me

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    No mine are new. I had a look in the instructions and couldnt find anything about changing the battery. Will have a look tomorrow at the unit.

    Mine are making the sonic noises but I cant feel the vibrations. It is a heavy clay they are in and held very tight, so dont know if that has anything to do with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalacreek View Post
    No mine are new. I had a look in the instructions and couldnt find anything about changing the battery. Will have a look tomorrow at the unit.

    Mine are making the sonic noises but I cant feel the vibrations. It is a heavy clay they are in and held very tight, so dont know if that has anything to do with it.
    The more solid the earth the better the noise transmissions should be. I would expect heavy clay would be of more solid construction that basic topsoil

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