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    Quote Originally Posted by Apuppyforme View Post
    Did u guys know that the kennel club in britain was sporned at the same time as the eugenics movement? Its very roots come from the oncept of selective breeding of people! Ie hitlers blond haired blue eyes race... You need to forgive me for not being overly specific, just repeating what i saw on the doco, but u could look into it. I found it really interesting to know that people used to meet up and select characteritics in people and try to "breed" them! So whilst hitler and his movement were overturned the kennel club continued.

    Now im in now way calling purebred supporters supremisists or anything like that, but it might explain the root concept of "bettering" the breed? I might do some research so i know what im talking about properly...

    Also, at what point does bettering the breed unbetter the breed? Ie was the breed of a certain dog the best 20 yrs ago but now its pushed past the point of better? Um an example would maybe be that skull neuro condition in british cavaliers?

    Just throwing some things out there that ive been pondering for a while...
    Oh wow APuppyforme. Beloz and I have a civilized discussion about the 'us' and 'them' mindset and you decide to bring Eugenics into the argument... Whilst admitting you don't know really what you are talking about.

    How.... Productive.

    So productive infact, that you have convinced me I wish to be no part of a discussion in which you participate. Period.

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    It was just a discussion point with an idea of the origin behind the concept of "bettering the breed", and i pointed out it was repeated from a doco as im not 100% on the specifics, which is better than repeating it as if it is the 100% truth, which would make me come across as ill educated. An concepts have to stem from somewhere i was just exploring where. Ie the concept of having a good work ethic is actually a christian concept. Anyway i digress, u say u are leaving but i bet u still check in!

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    Hey margoo, that was covered in the doco i watched. Purebreds exposed or some other over sensationalizes title, but u cannot argue with the pictures. Thats what was in my mind when i asked about going to far and unbettering the breed.

    Daschounds used to have longer legs and their tummys were higher etc. its a bit sad. I think its worse in the uk though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by margoo View Post

    Fashion and money referred to the DD breeders that are the topic of this thread. Read my post again.

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    I didn't see this BBC docu when it was on TV. I just now started watching it on youtube but so far couldn't get past the little King Charles Spaniel screaming in pain... perhaps another day when I'm feeling less fragile...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Di_dee1 View Post
    Fashion and money referred to the DD breeders that are the topic of this thread. Read my post again.
    I know that. But I think this argument goes both ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Di_dee1 View Post
    My father in law bred his own litter of working dogs every 10 years or so, mating to another farmer's dog that had some traits he wanted. All the other pups also found good homes to local farmers as he had a name for producing good working dogs even if it was only once in a blue moon, all free.. He kept one. He doesn't breed anymore and Pretty was the only bitch in 40 or more years that he failed to segregate as she had a split first season. He segregated for the first half of it but due to his own problems missed the second. Sire was his own pedigreed stumpy tail ACD and Pretty an acd x border collie.
    He never desexed any and but did a good job segregating till now.
    My beloved Shadow was the runt of his last intentional litter bred 16 years ago. (RIP aged 14} Last time he ever intentionally bred.

    Pretty is the bitch that I stole from him when she was 2 weeks off giving birth after saying no more dogs when I saw she was in pup ( I loved her and coveted her the moment I met her a few months beforehand and she is responsible for for giving me the pups that are now 2 years old that have been a lifesaver to me during chemo and radiation and who are in my siggy. I don't give a shit about pure vs cross breeds in his situation but I don't like oodles, poos crosses just bred for fashion and money.
    Just to make it easier for you. What part of that statement of how I feel didn't you understand?

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    Di, I think Margoo is making the point that both purebreeders and DD breeders can breed for what is fashionable. And if you breed a dog with a clearly unhealthy skeleton for the sake of winning 1st prize at a dog show, how is that in any way better than breeding a bitsa for money?

    Now I actually know that at least some of the GSD owners on this forum have gone out of their way to find a working line dog with a straight back. But it wasn't easy to find because most GSD breeders seem to breed to show standards, I remember being mentioned.

    This is a separate issue from what I touched on before, whether it is always necessary to keep improving a breed for the sake of it. But it is a valid argument in the discussion too. Especially if we ponder on the great divide between those who think only purebred breeding is ethical and those who think it is not or does not have to be.

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    I understood you perfectly well.

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