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    Some of the arguments here are just getting silly.

    What does it matter if the dog has no genetic links to the cross the person asked for if they are basing it on LOOKS! If they don't care about breeds why would they care what breeds go into the CROSS!


    It's funny how the advocates for cross breeding are (and this is not meant in an offensive way) the average pet owner. While the advocates for purebreds are those who have spent years (decades even) breeding themselves and learning about dog genetics.
    I have yet to meet someone with extensive knowledge in dog breeding condoning cross breeding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by margoo View Post
    V&F, no one argues that this isn't the right thing to do. But most people (and certainly most 'green' dog owners) don't function that way and don't make their choices that way. For the majority looks is the starting point when doing their research. And it's no good to ignore this fact, or talk it down... it won't go away. For most people it's a major factor when choosing a dog and if you look down, talk down, or plain insult these people, when they ask for advice all you'll achieve is them stop asking, but popping into the next pet store where they won't have to justify their choice.
    Margoo... Go back. In my opening post I stated clearly: I am 100% for tactful, supportive, non-derogatory communication with any dog owner or puppy buyer. Find me one post in 500+ where I have insulted, looked down on, or talked down to someone. I think you'll find that a tough challenge.

    Beloz- go back. 2-3 pages ago you stated that 'looks' was the solution.

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    Why is that funny? You obviously have a real passion for your chosen breed. So it's not surprising that you invest time and money in your hobby to gain knowledge. You are breeding as well arent you? Or is it showing? There is no breed I feel really passionate about, in fact I find it difficult to understand why I would get carried away by strong traits that might have been of use in the past but don't really anymore... I don't really need a hunting dog and I don't own cattle either. Hence my choice for a Xbreed.

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    I don't mind cross breeds.. I just don't like their breeders.

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    V&F, I know. I can recall being called a 'green' dog owner on occasions. And I think that came from you No offence taken - you are right. I am well aware that I have never been flamed here for owning a bitsa. BTW this why I de-registered from another forum where I initially posted a question without realising that I kicked into a nest of pure breed snobs (*geeeeez*).

    I appreciate that it is possible to have this discussion here in a reasonable manner and I would very much like it to stay that way. So I was just a bit disappointed that apuppyforme didn't feel welcome here. My point was that if you (not you personally, but pure breed lovers/breeders) choose not to listen to the needs of all the average pet owner they're contributing to the problem. We (dog & I) have been looked down by other dog owners. One referred to him as 'another mutt in the park' when he was a puppy. It's this kind of attitude that makes me cringe and that IMHO contributes to the problem, because it stops people from asking questions and buy their puppies in stores rather than from breeders.

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    *sigh*

    There's too much 'Robin Hood' here... Stealing from the rich to give to the poor so to speak.

    I was simply hoping someone out there could offer me one good reason for breeding a designer breed when there really are already breeds out there to suit every whim. Even those who love 'surprise packages'... Because there are rescue options.

    I cannot see how one can reputably and ethically breed DD crosses. Firstly, because it contravenes ANKC ethics. Secondly because then breeder is either a) breaking ANKC rules or b) using less than perfect specimens (the good ones are out there in the conformation rings, right, and no breeder with a super dooper awesome specimen is going to cross it with a different breed) and c) there is no structured planned program in place to either a) improve an existing breed or b) create a new one or c) utilize known traits for a specific working purpose.

    I agree we need to communicate supportively. Geez, of course, that isn't rocket science.

    But, finally, I think I can answer my original question;

    What characteristics can one seek to reliably find in a purpose bred DD cross that cannot be found in an exiting breed (or in a shelter)?

    A fancy pants sounding name that makes it look like one has the newest and bedtest thing on the block. Followed by a large loss to the pocket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by margoo View Post
    V&F, I know. I can recall being called a 'green' dog owner on occasions. And I think that came from you No offence taken - you are right. I am well aware that I have never been flamed here for owning a bitsa. BTW this why I de-registered from another forum where I initially posted a question without realising that I kicked into a nest of pure breed snobs (*geeeeez*).
    No, Margoo. I have never referred to anyone as a 'green' dog owner. Please look for the quote you refer to and reassure yourself and the rest of the forum that that comment cannot be attributed to me.

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    You're right Please accept my apology - it really wasn't you

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    Villain and flirt i told u its about looks. Of course i can find the right temparament, coat and exercise req in a purebred dog, but ive proven by accurately identifying nattylous cavoodles that they have a unique look. No its not about some stupid fancy panys name, im not jessica simpson wanting a multipoo asking which part of a buffalo has wings (ie a blond dumb bimbo). I am a very well educated professional woman making a choice based on research, and my preferences.

    Why does someone choose 1 medium short coat medium energy level dog over another with the same characteristics, brcause one has floppy ears, or one is yellow...its the same thing as long as u get your dog ethically and if the breeders were made to do health testing then it would be exactly the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crested_Love View Post
    Some of the arguments here are just getting silly.

    What does it matter if the dog has no genetic links to the cross the person asked for if they are basing it on LOOKS! If they don't care about breeds why would they care what breeds go into the CROSS!


    It's funny how the advocates for cross breeding are (and this is not meant in an offensive way) the average pet owner. While the advocates for purebreds are those who have spent years (decades even) breeding themselves and learning about dog genetics.
    I have yet to meet someone with extensive knowledge in dog breeding condoning cross breeding.
    Yay, a new argument!

    Come on then, dazzle us with what your extensive knowledge of genetics has to bring to this debate.

    ETA: And yes, I admit that the looks argument was quite topsy turvy. I knew what I was trying to say. I think. I'll ponder it some more.
    Last edited by Beloz; 12-29-2011 at 02:20 PM.

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