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    My high horse is no better than your high road. Why does the pound dog have more of a right to a home than the dog from a breeder? What if a breeder is doing everything perfect, breeding perfect, healthy dogs yet can't get a single person interested because everyone has told puppy buyers not to buy from breeders.

    How is purebred breeders stopping breeding going to clear the pounds? All it does is make people wait for a purebred or depending on how long the ban on breeding is make purebred dogs extinct in Australia.

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    Out of the 30 dogs listed on adopt a pet in Tasmania only one is a purebred and that's a beagle.

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    "Why does the pound dog have more of a right to a home than the dog from a breeder?"

    Exactly! But I don't see why that only applies to purebreds.

    I just wanted to give some here a taste of their own medicine. I don't at all feel superior because I got a rescue dog (I feel like the lucky one for finding her). But it is very clear that some here feel superior to those who would buy a deliberately bred crossbred. Accusing them of being the reason the pounds are full? Please!

    People buying from a pet shop or puppy farms have a lot to answer for. Some don't know any better, some don't care. The quickest way to stop it is to ban selling from pet stores and to regulate all breeding of dogs asap.

    But people buying a deliberately bred cross from a breeder who ensures the well being of his breeding dogs and pups are no worse than those buying a purebred pup!

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    I have never told someone not to adopt from a shelter, but I have heard plenty of people saying not to buy from a breeder.

    There are still health issues when buying a mixed breed that cannot be overcome when just mashing two breeds together. How do you know what the correct hip score is for a cross bred? Every breed has a different score that is considered acceptable and when mixing 2 scores together you don't know what it should be. That's just one example.

    People who deliberately breed cross breds for a purpose to develop a new breed do so with a great deal of risk and often heartbreak. I am fine if there is a reason behind it, but don't go selling those puppies until you have perfected your new 'breed' and you can assure the new owners your health tests are ACCURATE.

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    I think the fastest way to empty the pounds down here would be to make desexing your dog a bigger incentive...surely all those mastiff crosses and kelpie crosses we see in the act arent from byb, but people not desexing their dogs? Ie accidental litters or tough guys breeding a litter cause desexing their male dog is somehow emasculating their neanderthal owners?

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    Everyone keeps telling me of the horrors of crossbreeds and the accumulated health issues. I am yet to hear those stories firsthand from a crossbreed owner. Most of the dog owners I know or meet here have crossbreds. Most of them seem to die of old age (well, old age cancers often, I suppose) without massive health bills due to genetic defects. Some arthritis, the expected lumps and eye and kidney issues when they get to over 10... Never heard of a crossbreed with hip dysplasia myself. That doesn't mean that they don't exist, I just refuse to believe it is as big a problem as some try to make it appear.

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    I have teo colleages with cavoodles and they are lovely dogs with no issues yet...

    Growing up in the bush, purebreeds were unheard of, you got a bitza from someone who had a dog about the size u were after- for us it was big so it wouldnt fit down wombat holes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beloz View Post
    I've just caught up with this thread and oh boy. I find the accusation that those who don't oppose crossbreeding don't care about dogs' well being or them being dumped very offensive....
    I would 'like' this post twice if I could

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    Beloz, the vast veterinary database that is the local dog park and your mates possibly don't contain a whole lot of information on the health issues of crossbred dogs...

    And I grew up in the bush, with a Newfoundland from a breeder, and German Shepherds... from breeders. Surprise! Not everyone has the same experience and background, hence they like different things.

    But, like Crested, I have never advised anyone not to adopt a rescue dog. Yet I have heard plenty of people advise people not to buy from a purebred breeder. If you don't want to accept one is lesser than the other that is fine, but the purebred breeder slagging is a bit tiresome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nattylou View Post
    Beloz, the vast veterinary database that is the local dog park and your mates possibly don't contain a whole lot of information on the health issues of crossbred dogs...

    And I grew up in the bush, with a Newfoundland from a breeder, and German Shepherds... from breeders. Surprise! Not everyone has the same experience and background, hence they like different things.

    But, like Crested, I have never advised anyone not to adopt a rescue dog. Yet I have heard plenty of people advise people not to buy from a purebred breeder. If you don't want to accept one is lesser than the other that is fine, but the purebred breeder slagging is a bit tiresome.
    WHERE have I slagged purebred breeders? I respect anyone who cares for their dogs and ensures the well being of any dog they are responsible for, including pups they may breed. I just don't make a distinction based on the type of dog they breed.

    And you show me the proof from a 'proper' veterinary database that shows crossbreds are more prone to have genetic health issues and I will happily admit my ignorance. Until then, my anecdotal evidence is just as good as that of those who claim the opposite.

    Maybe if your tone would not be so condescending, I would react less emotionally. But it makes me feel personally attacked, and not even because I own or want a designer cross, but purely because I defend the right of those wanting one and those wanting to breed them. And I simply cannot stand the way they are portrayed as ignorant and uncaring - which is a massive generalisation based on absolutely nothing. And your attitude towards them is not very different from my pretended attitude that it is more ethical to get a rescue dog than a dog from a breeder.

    (BTW, we mainly had purebred dogs from breeders when I grew up - can't see what it has to do with anything.)

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