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    LOL that's the thing isn't it.. I want it so I get it, oops it's not actually what I wanted, so I dump it. *sigh*

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    The argument that breeding crossbreeds is irresponsible because there are already so many animals who needs home is ridiculous.

    If that's the argument to be used, then breeding ANY dog is irresponsible until all shelter dogs have homes IMO.

    Unrealistic right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by puggerup View Post
    LOL that's the thing isn't it.. I want it so I get it, oops it's not actually what I wanted, so I dump it. *sigh*
    This applies to EVERYTHING...not just oodles.

    Is it wrong, absolutely it is, I am ont he same side there, but to use it against oodles only is a bit rich.

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    It's not everything, it happens when people get a cross breed thinking it will be a certain height and look etc and it turns out to be something totally different.
    You don't get nearly as many pure breeds in the pound because people get them knowing what they are getting and getting what they want!!!!

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    I think that the best thing anyone can do before breeding is think. Getting a purebred or loving that particular breed should not be an excuse to breed either. If you really love your breed you say to yourself - does Australia really need any more well bred cattle dogs, poodles or whatever etc. If the answer is no then do your breed a favour and dont breed it.
    Last edited by Kalacreek; 12-22-2011 at 10:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puggerup View Post
    It's not everything, it happens when people get a cross breed thinking it will be a certain height and look etc and it turns out to be something totally different.
    You don't get nearly as many pure breeds in the pound because people get them knowing what they are getting and getting what they want!!!!
    I dont think its cause te dogs are cross breeds and turn out a bit different to how they imagined, i think they are dumped because they were so easily bought. If labrador puppies were available in a petshop imagine how many would be dumped! People impulse buy and arent ready for the work it takes. Whether a dog is pure or a cross isnt the issue. The issue is petshops and breeding conditions.

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    That's it though, you can't get pure breeds in a pet shop.. you want one, it's not going to be an impulse buy. People research the breed and find the most reputable breeder, unless they impulse buy and go to a BYB. That is usually through lack of understanding. If you get an unpapered pure bred dog, it isn't going to be a good sample of the breed, which means it may have serious health issues that the buyer can't afford to look after, or it may have aggression issues, it may not look right, it may even be a cross really, but sold as a pure etc etc
    Oodles are so easy to get. If I want one, I can just go and get one right now. All I need is $1000 and the local rag. I don't need to research or source out a breeder at all. They are pumping them out all year around, unlike reputable breeders who breed from champions maybe once or twice a year. People go on waiting lists for pures 9 times out of 10.
    Cross breeders are NOT using champions to breed from. They are using bad samples of each breed, because lets face it, if someone is going to purchase a champion of a certain breed, they would be lovers of that breed and not want to cross the lineage with something else. When you get a cross, it is a dog that comes from poor samples of each breed, which makes for risky business.
    Even when I bred Aussie bulldogs and we were putting them back to British, a pure bred was used, but he wasn't champion and he did have a certain "health issue" which stopped him from being in a BBD breeding program.. in other words, it wasn't good enough to breed pures from, but did fine for crossing.
    So the issue isn't just puppy mills and pet shops, the issue is also from accidental matings from eejits who don't desex and back yard breeders. Cross breeds and un registered breeders are bad news.

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    Prolly OT.

    Purebreed has only been a concept since 1869 or when ever it was and was steeped in superiority of classes and the eugenics concept of the same time,( I am open to a debate about this as I have text of the time) a pedigree repository remaining till this day and around the world copied, I think people don't realise that or choose to ignore it. prior to that and still today for the vast majority of canine records are kept on breedings in a familial fashion. Personal, breed fancie club, ala mini foxie, Koolie etc.


    Cross and hybrids have been a natural occuring thing since time began Donkies, Ligers, Tigons, Carmas, Zonkies/Zeedonk, Mules, Beefalo/cattelo, Wolphin (a fertile but very rare cross between a false killer whale and a Bottle nose Dolphin.) Dzo, cross between a cow/bull and a yak. All real crosses natural non forced by man, probably many many more.
    Last edited by Beau; 12-22-2011 at 11:23 AM.
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    What's your point Beau?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalacreek View Post
    I think that the best thing anyone can do before breeding is think. Getting a purebred or loving that particular breed should not be an excuse to breed either. If you really love your breed you say to yourself - does Australia really need any more well bred cattle dogs, poodles or whatever etc. If the answer is no then do your breed a favour and dont breed it.
    This is me.........I have a purebred bitch and a dog, neither is desexed.........They have their championship and the bitch is obedience titled and does water rescue. But will i breed her? Most likely not. even though several people have asked for pups from this pair and they are newfie people. There are plenty of newfie breeders and there are even newfies that now land in Rescue, I have two of them....Too many newfies. And anyway only a few people would be good enough for my puppies ( I am a newfie snob). If I could be guaranteed to only have two puppies, maybe yes......But imagine having 11 puppies or even more. And being responsible to find good homes for them. It would be too stressful for me. I would be worried about not getting good enough homes for them. there is the giant factor and the grooming in my chosen breed
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