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    Its really hard sometimes. I am waiting on a cavalier cross poodle. I am fully aware of what i am getting myself into, i fell in love with them years ago, and both breeds would suit us, so the cross with its looks will be great. I did howeer spend months researching byb and puppy mills, and am getting my puppy from a breeder that i am most welcome to visit, and am happy enough with the dogs conditions.

    In my research i came across a well known victorian puppy farm, it even had advertised they had an open day! Great i think, they must have nothing to hide, wrong. I googled the visitors comments and found horrible comments, the breeders dont even name their. Dogs! And they have electricfences.

    Unless you have seen youtube, it is incomprehensible that puppy mills could be so bad, they have to register their business, all those pens or sheds cant go unnoticed, so why does the local govt not visit and intervene? The answer seems so simple, so to see the cute little face in the petshop requires a big mental leap to envisage where the puppy came from.

    I would really show your workmate the puppy listings, sway her with cute puppy faces and at least she can get one close by from someone who is registered fairly quickly. Unless she is like me and really wants a cross breed but isnt brave enough to tell you...

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    Kuri, ive been wondering what breed molly is? She is adorable!

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    I have no idea what molly is, i found her at our local pound, even they had no idea what she was, all her paperwork said mini old english sheepdog! Just goes to show you can get a beautiful dog through a pound or shelter!

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    What state are you in Apuppyforme? The RSPCA Adoptapet site now allows you to search by breed... might help you find your cav x poodle or cavoodle as they are called in the new 'designer dogs' world.
    Owning a dog should be a partnership. Much like a good marriage it should be based on love, trust and devotion until death do you part.
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    Hi clarebare,

    In the act. We really only get kelpie crosses and mastiff crosses through rspca here, i checked it everday for months. Plus i wont risk a dog which i do not know its history around my toddler.

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    Hi Apuppyforme
    good idea not to risk a new dog round a little one
    but on saying thats i have a dog from the pound, and she is wonderfull round kids love thems
    do i ever trust her or any of my dogs round little ones no never
    both dogs and baby dont understand each other
    so you do what is best for you
    take care
    good1

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    I'm in the ACT, there are 7 dogs on death row at the pound at the moment and 5 of them are kelpies or kelpie crosses!

    I got my rescue dog from Sydney. There's no way the RSPCA would've allowed her to go to a family with young kids though as she was incredibly jumpy and 'mouthy' and my poor daughter (6) got scratched by claws or teeth quite a few times in the first few months. But we both think it was worth it as she is a great dog and she is a lot better now. She loves my daughter and she'd follow her into the school every morning if I let her.

    With a rescue dog, I think it helps too if it isn't your first family dog, so you know more what to look for.

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    I know I wouldn't be able to stop myself from informing her of the puppy mill/pet shop/byb circle. If we stop buying we stop contributing to the problem.

    I think a shelter dog is a great idea, but she has to have some criteria of what they want in a dog, it may not be size or breed but it should at least be energy levels, as this is the biggest criteria that contributes to dogs being re-homed or handed into pounds and shelters - they aren't the right home for the dogs exercise and stimulation requirements.

    I would consider a dog that has been in foster care so you know what the animal is like in a home environment.

    If you are patient and work with a rescue the right one will come about.

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    Well today she showed me a picture if her new puppy that she got on sunday, and yes it was straight from the pet shop . Had to grit my teeth and congratulate her : (

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuri_89 View Post
    I have a work colleague, who recently lost her dog to old age (had to be euthanized) and she and her family are having a hard time adjusting without a four legged friend around the house. Today she explained to me she had started looking at getting a new dog! i congratulated her and asked where she would be looking at getting their new friend, then she replied "pet shop", immediately i started on her - why when there are so many more dogs out there that need homes? by purchasing a dog from a pet shop you are only helping puppy mills to continue to thrive, pet shop animals usually have so many problems, etc, etc. Her reply was - we looked at a shelter and they were all ugly. I swear, i could of hit her right at that moment! I then explained to her if she wasn't willing to sift through the shelters, how about dogs in need of a new home through the classifieds? Her answer was "could work, but don't most of them have behavioral problems?" I am absolutely dumbfounded at how ignorant she was being! I was wondering what all your thoughts are on the matter? What are your thoughts on shelter animals, Reputable Breeders or Pet shop animals?
    I tend to go for larger breeds. Rottweilers, GSD's etc.
    I dont want someone else's messed up to dog to sort out, its easier to prevent problems developing, that unlearning problem behaviours for dogs.
    I went against this and rescued a rottie cross. 3 months later, we admitted defeat in the rehoming. She was just too aggressive to our male rottie. Not to us human family members. Sadly we returned her. I got a phone call from the rescue that evening, advising me that she had attacked 2 people, badly injuring 1 of them and was PTS.

    Never again.

    I know there are very deserving cases, where a loving home is all they require. Unfortunately, with rotties or GSD's they tend to be surrendered as they've developed some unwanted/dangerous behaviours.
    And when your dog weighs 8 stone, you dont want dangerous behaviours, especially as we have toddlers in the family.

    I feel slightly ashamed of this way of thinking, but not ashamed enough to change and risk it with my family members.

    Pet shops: i live in Australia, but come from uk where selling of pups/kittens from a pet shop is illegal. I feel disgusted when i see litter after litter available in same shop near me.

    Puppy farms: shoot them.

    BYB: Depends....
    Bernie and Pohm are both kinda BYB. Bernie comes from many generations of working dogs. Both parents work sheep and cattle. Deliberately bred to produce new dog for my farmer friends, as Bernie's dad was now 8yrs old, mum was 4yrs old. I have known these farmers and their gorgeous working GSD's for some yrs, and had always said, should they ever breed, id like one just like their boy. They produced Beautiful litter of healthy pups, with excellent hip scores and health records. That sold as working lines, extreemly expensively, whilst i paid mates rates for Bernie
    But still technically a BYB.
    Pohm is also a kinda BYB: mum is a bordeaux, covered by the Bordeaux Sire, and then sneakily covered by the rottie next door. A gorgeous pup. But not what a reputable breeder expected.
    Last edited by bernie; 12-13-2011 at 12:58 PM.

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