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    Default Vision development in pups

    As most of us will know, pups dont see that well. At first. But when does it catch up?

    I have a 22 week rottie x bordeaux, who appears to have little distance vision. She's very good with a retrieve, but throw it too far, and she cant see it.
    Is this normal?
    I am comparing her to our GSD adult who can sight see things miles away. Can see where ball lands when thrown with a ball thrower, whereas pup can only see it the distance i can throw like a girl with my bare hands.

    We had a rottie, and it wasnt till he was 3 that he was diagnosed as visually impaired by our behaviourist trainer. I wonder if its a rottie thing?
    The rottie would bark at my husband entering the back garden if he was at other end, not till my husband spoke, would he recognise him and come running.

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    By 22 weeks his vision would be fully developed. Remember thought that he's a youngster from breeds that mature quite slowly so it may not be so much that he can't see it, just more that he doesn't get the idea to follow it with his eye as it's being thrown, if you get what I mean?

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    I can only speak from personal experience...........i spend a lot of very young 4 week onwards puppies, to "train" and socialize them. All the puppies I have dealt with have quite good eyesight at his time. I throw little balls and small items for them to retrieve. There is the occasional one who does not seem to see properly and sometimes I think this is due in the babies due to concentration.

    I think when the eyes are no longer blue ( in brown eyed dogs) their sight should be as it is going to be. So it is possible that your puppy has some eyesight problem. Saying that, it is always noted that most dogs do not have good eyesight compared to other species. they should have great distance eyesight for moving objects not so much stationary and use their olfactory system. Hence some dogs will bark at strange shapes, eg when you have left your handbag on top of the car. or a bucket is left out in the driveway. Maybe your little pup is not concentrating and watching the movement of the ball.

    It might be a good idea to "test" by having long distance movement sight tests. Put a toy ( not too small) on a long-line and move it whilst the puppy is looking in that direction

    We do a lot of these things with some puppies, as we test a lot of puppies with the Volhard system.....it can be very involved. A good way to early check for training ability and temperament. And we do pick up hearing and sight problems too.

    But it could all be due to concentration, your pup is still young
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    Thankyou Mac and Newfsie.
    Im keen to work out if she has visual issue.
    Newfsie, can you explain a bit more some testing. I dont understand what you are saying with :"It might be a good idea to "test" by having long distance movement sight tests. Put a toy ( not too small) on a long-line and move it whilst the puppy is looking in that direction"

    So is pup with me, and the toy is at a distance, but on some line that I pull, or someone else pulls to activate?

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    ps. im fine with her having a visual defect. Im half blind, so cant talk.
    But as i have 100% accurate retrieve without distraction providing its within 20 metres. And high motivation to play this game, do you think its lack of concentration?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bernie View Post
    Thankyou Mac and Newfsie.
    Im keen to work out if she has visual issue.
    Newfsie, can you explain a bit more some testing. I dont understand what you are saying with :"It might be a good idea to "test" by having long distance movement sight tests. Put a toy ( not too small) on a long-line and move it whilst the puppy is looking in that direction"

    So is pup with me, and the toy is at a distance, but on some line that I pull, or someone else pulls to activate?
    What I have done with one young dog we thought was vision impaired, was. I held the dog and threw some stuff in the direction of the toy on a long lead. So I got the dog to look into the direction and Hubby made the toy move, jerky short movements in a small area. So that the dog got a chance to see it. this dog went into immediate prey drive. he could see moving object a long way away, even though he seemed quite "blind" in other ways. Like I said dogs go by movement. This is not all dogs. Sight hounds have good vision, but it still requires movement. this is why prey such as bunnies use the 'freeze into position' . Hoping they won't be seen. But a good dog will pick up the bunny with his nose and the chase is on........
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    Try getting toys or balls in yellow. Yellow is a good colour for them to see.

    Dogs recognise and react to movement more than stationary items.

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    Phew, no visual impairment.
    This was concentration issue. He see's the 'moving toy' in the distance just fine.
    Thanks for the test Newfsie. It was reassuring to see her 'sight' objects at far greater distances than im throwing.

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    Good news........
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    ok MAC
    as santa allready has provided Pohm with her fave brand of ball in yellow, i'll continue the yellow theme.
    With 'fetch' game with 2 dogs. They can tell which of the 2 red balls is theirs, i cant. This will address that.
    Bernie

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