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    I'm also having a similar problem, my girl molly has all of a sudden become a flea magnet! I've had her for 12months and have had no problems with flea's until now. I live with my mother who has two dogs of her own that I haven't caught fleas on yet, i've also checked my cats and could not see any flea's either, but my girls tummy is covered with them? We've usually used Sentinel, but have recently changed as we've also caught ticks on her so we have changed to frontline (a spray, not the tubes) & i have to completely drench her in the stuff and it's still not working! I've gotten rid of all her bedding as well!

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    i also forgot to add that i have completely shorn off all her fur right down to the skin which i did about 3 weeks ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuri_89 View Post
    I'm also having a similar problem, my girl molly has all of a sudden become a flea magnet! I've had her for 12months and have had no problems with flea's until now. I live with my mother who has two dogs of her own that I haven't caught fleas on yet, i've also checked my cats and could not see any flea's either, but my girls tummy is covered with them? We've usually used Sentinel, but have recently changed as we've also caught ticks on her so we have changed to frontline (a spray, not the tubes) & i have to completely drench her in the stuff and it's still not working! I've gotten rid of all her bedding as well!
    I can almost guarantee those other pets will have fleas aswell. Mojo dosnt have very thick hair at all and i couldnt find a single flea on him but as soon as a fine steele toothed flea comb was used on him we found a few instantly. If you dont treat the other pets aswell you just will not beat the problem. Its best to get stuck into it now while the other pets arent to bad. I have started usins a shade cloth type material on my dog's bed as its so easy to wash and dry and fleas just dont seem to live in it at all. Any blankets (winter time) are soaked in a bucket of hot water and flea shampoo for about a hour and then hung out to dry without rinsing the shampoo off it. It might be too expensive to treat all those pets with comfortis, so if it is i'd stick to a good flea shampoo, your frontline, a flea powder in the bedding and lime in any dirt areas.
    While we dont get fleas inside we will also use a flea powder on our carpets and vacum it up after a while. (our carpet is crap anyway, dont know about doing that on good carpets

    This is the worst time of year in my area for fleas.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Beau View Post
    I have only used it in the gardens for aphids, it works well.

    umm if the dogs are in a dog house/kennel adding cedar wood shavings will also help keep fleas at bay, at least inside the dog kennel.
    Beau
    Cedar is good stuff, smells nice too. Red cedar mulch and chips are (apparently) said to keep termites away as well, some use it under thier houses but i've read that cedar can also cause skin irritations so it would be worth keeping a eye on the dog to see if any reaction is occuring.


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    Ahhh horrid. Had a flea infestation once, and had a terrible time. I now longer have fleas and have no treated either house or dog for them at all. not sure why. Just luck. My last dog never got them after I used Frontline for a year or so, and out present girl, who has a staffie coat, just never seems to get fleas and that's in two different houses.. I still hunt for them from time to time and I have never found any signs. The last girl was treated then never had much contact with other dogs (farm) and my present girl has been flea-free in two different abodes.

    When looking for fleas, seeing a few on the bare tum is usually too late. The dog is already covered. The fleas tend to stay in the longer hair, so by the time they are commonly on bare skin, there are a lot of them. Near the base of the tail (under and over unfortunately) is a better place to look for fleas and little black droppings. They hang around there and around the mouth for the (ugh!) moisture from mouth and anus. You need to riffle the hair backwards against the lay and get to the skin.

    Frontline, either spray or neck drops, lasts several weeks (the spray "up to" 3 months IIRC). It is expensive to buy, but a large bottle lasts for ages. The advantage of the spray is that if you let the dog lie on its bed just after spraying, you will treat the area somewhat. Also the fleas will simply stay off the dog, if they are out in the sand, and not be brought in to the house. Ironically this is also a disadvantage if the fleas are indoors in number already. If you use the tablets or drops the dog can act as a flea catcher and be killing fleas for you. If the house is infested, you either need to tough up and get an egg-kill crawling bug spray, do the whole place then [I]thoroughly[I] vacuum a day or so later. You will need to repeat a few times, probably, until you break the cycle. Vacuum weekly and treat with bug spray as often as they say. MAKE SURE YOU SPRAY THE VACUUM CLEANER WHILE IT'S STILL RUNNING EACH TIME. I had a really great experience when I walked in to the store room where the cleaner was kept and had millions of fleas all up my legs. They had simply bread in the cleaner. They seem to breed FAST. Ut was about then that I _really_ startedf to learn about fleas.

    Or get in "the man" to do the place for you. Even then you will have to be diligent to keep them away.

    Regular brushing and washing of the dogs will also help to remove both some fleas and eggs. Just a rinse and a rub while rinsing can do wonders. Frontline is pretty water-resistant after a few hours. I do wonder if my Tess has no problems in part because she gets regular swims and a rinse down nearly daily when we get home

    Bottom line:
    - you have to break the egg-flea cycle, then keep at it, or it will creep back. Just killing a few fleas will not work.
    - You should treat all the dogs, even if you think only one has the problem. I would be willing to bet the others have some and that is just going to allow some to survive.
    - Sporadic treatment when it becomes a "problem" will rarely work. Until you are _sure_ you have stopped the fleas, you have to keep at it. Even then your dog may bring more in, and contact other dogs etc.
    - Unfortunately I feel that you need to use strong stuff, and a lot of it is poisonous. That's just the choice you make. The poison is fairly specific in most cases (although IIRC malawash is malathion...not nice). Used at the recommended dose it will be ok unless you get an allergic reaction.
    - use the correct dose. Overdosing is obviously dangerous, but under-dosing can run the risk of creating resistant strains.

    Talking of any itchiness or rashes, talk to the vet about Malaseb (not malathion) which is anti fungal/bacterial and also anti inflammatory. I had a dof with really bad flea allergy and a bath in that stopped her rubbing and scratching (until she bled!) while we cleared up the fleas. Saved he weeks of misery.

    HAH! I am now going to "post quick reply"

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    Interesting..... frontline drops (Plus) claim to kill eggs as well. Not sure how that works. Both spray and dropper also claim to treat flea dermatitis. I was still told to use Malaseb.

    Al I know is that twice I have had troubles and this stuff, used thoroughly and with other hygiene did the trick, permanently in my case.

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    Today i went and bought some flea shampoo for both the dogs and the cats. Washed all the animals, then used the frontline drops on the cats and also gave them an oral treatment. i then went and did the dogs with a frontline spray and also gave them an oral treatment. They no longer have any bedding as i've thrown it all out (they rarely use anyway as it's too hot they rather sleep on the tiles) our house is fully tiled except the carpet in my bedroom so i may get some stuff for the carpet tomorrow. is there anything else i should be considering? fingers crossed this should do it!

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    Also, i myself am not feeling any effects from the fleas, no bites or anything on me so have i got it in time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuri_89 View Post
    Today i went and bought some flea shampoo for both the dogs and the cats. Washed all the animals, then used the frontline drops on the cats and also gave them an oral treatment. i then went and did the dogs with a frontline spray and also gave them an oral treatment. They no longer have any bedding as i've thrown it all out (they rarely use anyway as it's too hot they rather sleep on the tiles) our house is fully tiled except the carpet in my bedroom so i may get some stuff for the carpet tomorrow. is there anything else i should be considering? fingers crossed this should do it!
    Sounds good but the yard outside might be a source aswell. If your dogs have a favourite 'spot' in the garden or yard a dose of flea powder or lime may help a bit or you could stop them from using that area if you suspect its a flea area. The stuff you have done is great but you will need to do it again and again, maybe the next 2 weekends or so. If your cats visit or play with other cats they could be passed on by these other animals to yours. That can make it really hard to control. But your definently on the right track. Good luck.


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    Dogs are mostly in the house whilst someone is home, when im at work i keep them
    In the garage which is connected to our pool area ( large area with fake grass) as we are trying to grow our lawn back atm so theyre rarely around dirt/grass at home only when im out there to watch them (make sure theyre not disrupting the new grass growth) however i do take them to the dog park and i walk them every afternoon so could be catching them there? The cats are mostly inside, i let them outside for around 3 hours during the day when i get home, i know all my neighbours let their cats out at night so they rarely have contact with other cats.

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