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    Sadly if you opt to purchase a blue Staffy you need to expect some sort of skin condition. It is the norm not the exception for a blue Staffy to develop some sort of dermatitis and it is pretty normal for them to have mange at some stage in their lifetime.

    I would also watch out for Colour Dilution Alopecia which is common in blue Staffs because the Blue is a dilute of black, but the blue Staffs also seem more prone to it then other diluted colours in other breeds.
    Canine follicular dysplasia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Unfortunately as also pointed out blue is not a healthy colour and most reputable, ethical Staff breeders will not purposely breed for the blue colour (for the reasons you are now experiencing). Most "blue" breeders will put two blue dogs together which is a huge No No. If you like the colour, next time I would aim to purchase from a breeder who does not breed for the colour but maybe breeds blacks, you may have to wait some time for a litter that has a blue but it would be worth it.

    Personally I find the blue such a common colour now it is ridiculous. I much prefer the blacks, fawns and reds.

    Also it would be too hard for someone on here to know if they purchased a pup from the same breeder as you. There are close to 200 breeders of Stafford's here in QLD (and a lot of them are blue breeders). You would have to let us know an approx location of their kennels and the date the litter was born.
    Although this is a quite a small forum I doubt anyone here has bought from the same breeder as you.
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    anyone who charges extra for blues cos they are "rare" should be PTS..........

    and like K&P said, breeding a blue to a blue is a no no....... but alot of people do it.......
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    K&P summed it up.

    The person I read about the same sad story as Angel, was posting on another forum, and the thread got so heated it was deleted.

    Maybe try googling blue staffy problem or complaint and see what you come up with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    K&P summed it up.

    The person I read about the same sad story as Angel, was posting on another forum, and the thread got so heated it was deleted.

    Maybe try googling blue staffy problem or complaint and see what you come up with.
    I know which one you are talking about I remember reading it and feeling very very sad for the pup and also for the purchaser. Actually I believe her pup was bought here in QLD as well.

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    Wow!!! As I've said before it really has been an informative experience! Thank you all so much for your replys!
    I'm coming to terms with it now.....it is what it is! She is a very expensive but much loved pet! guess I just wasn't meant to show or breed with this one?!
    That's ok you just never know what's around the next corner ;-)
    I don't know QLD but my girl came from around Dalby??!
    Thanks again!

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    You're right Reyzor - blue is in the standard as a colour. But the standard also calls for black pigment, which a blue (dliute) dog cannot have.

    So all dilute blue staffords are automatically faulted, and would have to have qualities seriously outweighing their faults. The trouble is that the heavy blue lines are not renowned at all for quality, and I think there are rumours of the blue colouring either coming in from one dog whose ancestry may just be questionable, or via some other underhanded outcrossing to another breed to obtain the blue colour.

    Blues do usually lack quality generally and few are considered breeding and or show quality by genuine breed enthusiasts.

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    I was lucky last year when my hairdresser was looking at buying a blue staffy. I basicly told him he was forking out big dollars for a fault I also told him about the above mentioned thread as well as information gathered from a friend who used to breed AmStaffs. Well when I went back he had brought himself a lovely red. I was quite pleased with his choice and I don't even own purebreeds myself!! My Fur kids are made with free love no arranged marriages here but I like to think that maybe I had an influence. Plus I don't like to see people ripped off!!!

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    So is this Blue defect related only to staffies? Excuse my ignorance but reading this is the first ive heard of it.

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    Hi Peter70

    I think it's mainly a problem with Staffordshire Bull Terriers (SBT). Not sure about American Staffordshires (AMSTAFF).

    Some dogs - the main colour is blue eg the weimerana and doesn't seem to be associated with health problems like it is with the SBT.

    There are some other breeds with a particular colour = health problems - so it's always something to check - especially if you want a colour that's not desirable or a fault on the breed standard.

    Eg Merle BCs can have health problems - especially if they had two merle parents. Dalmations with particular colours (too much white?) can have problems, white boxers can have problems. And there's probably other combinations with links between colour and health problems.

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    I guess Im a little confused also.....why is Blue mentioned at all in the standard if its a dilute/fault? Also where does the blue come from in Wiemeraners? Thats not a fault????

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