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    Default Have You Honestly Never Left Your Child Alone with Your Dog?

    Not even for a second?

    Just wondering...

    FYI, yes I have...heaps of times...for more than one second. I dont want to go outside every time the kid wants to bounce on the tramp, or play in the dirt.

    Shes 12 now so it's almost moot but she has been going out with them "alone" since she was about 2 or 3 (different dogs over the years). I use "" around alone, as obviously when she was smaller I would be watching...not necessarily out there but watching, or sometimes out there but not right there if that makes sense.

    And, I dont even feel like I shouldnt have done it - I would do it now if I had another (god forbid LOL).

    That's how I grew up too...our childhood dogs were a vital part of "go and play outside adults are talking...and take the dogs" or whatever and noone would check on us for hours.

    I dont recall there being so many maulings back then. So I have to wonder, are we doing something wrong with our dogs or children these days that is increasing these statistics, or is it just that with social networking and the internet the information is a hell of a lot more accessible....or is it a mixture of both?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lala View Post
    Not even for a second?

    Just wondering...

    FYI, yes I have...heaps of times...for more than one second. I dont want to go outside every time the kid wants to bounce on the tramp, or play in the dirt.

    Shes 12 now so it's almost moot but she has been going out with them "alone" since she was about 2 or 3 (different dogs over the years). I use "" around alone, as obviously when she was smaller I would be watching...not necessarily out there but watching, or sometimes out there but not right there if that makes sense.

    And, I dont even feel like I shouldnt have done it - I would do it now if I had another (god forbid LOL).

    That's how I grew up too...our childhood dogs were a vital part of "go and play outside adults are talking...and take the dogs" or whatever and noone would check on us for hours.

    I dont recall there being so many maulings back then. So I have to wonder, are we doing something wrong with our dogs or children these days that is increasing these statistics, or is it just that with social networking and the internet the information is a hell of a lot more accessible....or is it a mixture of both?
    LOL I can honestly say nope never have with Zeke he is too big a boof head and loves kids but shows it by bowling them over and I am not about to scar a kid for life because they were being licked to death, and considering my son is 18 I don't have little ones around that are mine.

    So yes Zeke is always supervised simply because I don't know what someone else's child will do or how they will react with a dog or the parent when their little one cries from fright/bumps/knocks. lol I don't know how but it seems like some kids are as fragile china these days, when I was growing up we use to eat mud and run around covered in dirt, skin our knees and elbows, climb trees, eat weeds like sour grass (accompanied by "Ewww a dog could have pee'd on them") without dying and we were even allowed to play hide and seek in the dark and play under the sprinklers, about the only thing that did fill us with fear was being taken down the street in our PJ's to get the weekly take a way of fish and chips (now that was a cringe moment lol).

    We didn't have a dog when our son was under 5 so it wasn't an issue, but when I was little I was ALWAYS out with the dogs lol sleeping on the lawn with them plating their hair washing them, putting make up on them, teaching them to dance etc but when I was little no one sued you if you weren't at fault and their were things called accidents and responsibility for your own actions, people weren't crucified in the social media, press and public before the story was known these days they spread like wildfire and there is no onus of proof before making things public and pretty much destroying people.

    So yep after that essay (lol I can talk under water with a mouthful of marbles as well) I think I have come to the conclusion that we tend to suck in general at being people and the animals haven't changed.
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    I don't have kids but my little brother was always supervised with our dogs when my parents visited until he was old enough to understand how to behave properly around them.
    He is 8 now and we let him outside with the poodles to play ball... although we sit at the dining table which has full view of the backyard

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    I don't have kids, or had friends or families children to look after, so no child has been on its own with my dog.
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    I have left my 4 year old alone with my old ridgeback, my mums shiztzus and now Mojo.
    She has been nipped when she antagonises them. Lesson learnt for her.
    I trust these dogs to go no further than a warning nip. I wont leave her alone with unknown or untrusted dogs. My 10 year old is very responsible and i dont mind leaving him at home by himself as we have a brilliant neighbourhood with trusted friends just a door away.
    I grew up this way too. It wasnt till i was about 13 that i got my first touch up from a dog and it was my fault. Infact every time i've ever been bitten seriously by a dog it was my fault.


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    It would have to depend on the individual dog and the training.........we have some of our dogs that are trained for therapy work with children. These are the dogs we have from puppies and we decide during their puppy hood as to wether they would be suitable. Katy is one of them.......Abbey before her, Jessy before that and Josh.......We have also Cody our Scotch Collie now called rough collies and Tessa our Golden cross. We had these dogs from puppy and there early puppy training was all about being handled by children, roughly and nicely (also adults). That being so the therapy dogs are never left with children on their own when they are at their job, because that is not how therapy dogs work. But those dogs at home have often been alone with kids and have gone out with kids alone, being adventurous in the garden and such and even in the paddocks.

    There are as many stories where dogs safe kids as there are stories of attack.....Sadly we never get the whole story. As to where the dog lived (inside or out) how much interaction they had usually with the family and kids. And what time of life it was for the dog, very old, not so well or young untrained.

    You can often tell a dog who could possibly ( again you cannot predict any event) be unreliable with children. They are the dogs who will not allow nail-clipping, ear cleaning or difficult grooming even. Or they behave aggressively or "bossy" around food/toys. They don't like being moved or held tight.
    I think it is unfair to expect dogs to be 100% around children, unless they have been desensitised. And there will always be fact that something unexpected could happen.

    My hubby and I are both amazed at what people will trust their kids with....Even horses. we get horses here for training that belong to children and I would not ride them the way they arrive, let alone allow a kid to ride them alone on the road. They often have no manners on the ground (kick/nip) and have no control in the saddle. These horses/ponies are sent off with kids and then they wonder why their children get injured ( bucked off/rearing or runaways).

    All animals should be trained to deal with children and they unexpected. We put those horses trough a lot to make them more reliable and some we will tell the parents are never suitable for kids

    We train our dogs for poking, slapping, pinching, lifting lips/ears/tail/feet, with poking. And our dogs think it is fun and may possibly have a reward at the end.

    You cannot train for outright cruelty, but that is rare coming from a child, the usually do something accidentally, sudden movement, tripping falling grabbing the dog, grabbing food/toy from the dog.

    I think it all goes to knowing the temperament of your dog and having socialised the dog well.

    I have one dog at home, who I would never leave with anyone who was not a trainer. That is our Rescue Annabelle. However our Rescue Lukey is very sweet and soft with kids when we are there, but I do not know his history, so he is never left alone

    So it is knowing the particular dog.........I am sure a lot of people , even without training specifically, have had kid proof dogs. That could be dressed by kids, have bones taken out of their mouths, poked and prodded. We as the adults just have to have the knowledge and be truthful as to which dog is which. And truth is a huge part of this, because some people have the emotional attachment and do not want to admit there is a fault with their dog/s

    Which makes me wonder how many of these dog attack happen in households where people are really "into" dogs and dog behaviour.

    I just always feel so sad, when this happens to children. it affects them often forever. We, the adults, should protect children from this.
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    No never...But dog still managed to bite 5 year old daughter..

    We were sitting together on back lawn while our kelpie chewed a bone on the lawn.

    Dog walked up to us, dropped the bone at my feet and sat. Daughter leaned forward over the bone to pat the dog and like lightning, it snapped at her face breaking the skin over her eye.

    It all happened so fast.
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    I don't have kids, but when I was younger I was ALWAYS left alone with out dogs. But I was also taught from a young age (4ish) how to treat dogs... not go near them while they are eating etc. I remember once I sprayed our dog Bess with a water bottle and she hated water, she gave me a warning and I never did it again. lol

    When I have kids, I won't leave them alone with Bella and Harley until they are probably 4 or 5ish as well, then they can go outside and play will them and do what ever - unless of course there was some reason that I couldn't trust them with kids that is.

    My sister was bitten on the face by our friends Rotty x GSD, she stuck her face in his though and he obviously didn't like it. That was our only incident.

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    Yes i have, dont feel any guilt for doing so either.
    As kids we always played with our dogs unsupervised, most our dogs never even had leads on them.
    Nowdays i guess we all get caught up in the hype and lock our kids away from everything than can possibly hurt them, thus having them miss out on most of the good things in life.
    Its no wonder kids cant think for themselves nowadays theyve never had to.

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    Chipps - thats interesting. I find a lot of people say "supervision with dogs is a must"...

    I hope your daughter was OK for the situation

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