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    Katy and Lukey are always with the kids....they love to be with the kids, in the middle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keira & Phoenix View Post
    I don't have kids and would certainly never leave anyone else's kids alone with either of my dogs (for the same reason as many here, don't trust kids not to do what they are told not to). Point in case, my nephew has been told many a time not to pat them on the head (only pat underneath), not to stick fingers up noses, pull tails etc but he still does it, but I am always there to catch him and tell him off for it or someone from my family is. Both my dogs are pretty solid with kids and spent a fair bit of time with kids growing up but I don't expect them to be 100% bombproof because any dog given the right circumstances can snap at a child. And as Ange said, I am not having my dog PTS because of irresponsibility on my part or irresponsibility of a child's parent.

    Sorry Lala that incident with Barney made me cringe. Do you know how many children are mauled because parents have allowed them to play near or with a dog or its food during dinner time. There was one earlier this year that ended with a Lab mauling a 3yo girls face down near Lismore in NSW because the child was allowed to play near the dog whilst it was eating. Obviously this incident made you more confident in Barney but it could have ended a lot worse and that I find irresponsible, those are the incidents that give dogs a bad name...oh the dog snapped for no reason....yeah right. I also know you have in the past had RB X's. We are desperately fighting against BSL and there are people out there doing silly things like this that end up in dog attacks with people saying oh look at that RBx that just "snapped" "attacked without provocation""no reason""no warning" etc etc. I know Barney isn't RB but if you are happy to do this with Barney then I am sure you would do it with any dog. Meanwhile we are trying to advocate for more responsible ownership.

    Sorry Lala above is also aimed at other members as I noticed many other members on here also leave their children alone with their dogs, Your particular story stuck out because of the situation with the food so I used it as an example. If we as a responsible dog community don't find the need to supervise our children and dogs together, how can we expect the general community with dogs (not necessarily doggy people) to supervise their children and dogs together.
    No need to say sorry LOL. I posted that story specifically for the cringe factor.

    EDIT TO ADD: She wasnt allowed roun them with food when she was younger, her taking Barney's food that time was because I had turned my back and she had intervened despite knowing she wasnt meant to be there.

    When they first come home I do work alot with the ogs an food. I start with me putting hands in the bowl, or lifting a lip while they eat. And other stuff like that...my kid joined in eventually with supervision once she was a bit older (i,e. she did this with pippi) .I spend more time conitioning this that I do teaching my dogs to sit or stay.

    I would rather have my dogs conitioned to be OK if a kid walked up an grab their food, than never allow them to be in that situation and have no idea how they would react. Because despite all out best efforts, sometimes you end up in a situation you woul normally avoid (i.e. a ki grabbing the dogs food) and if the dog has never been in that situation then youve got no idea how that woul go....I have. Pippi would continue eating, Barney stops and waits LOL.

    At the end of the day, I agree that any dog can "snap" and I am always aware of what is going on with my guys and if they showed any signs of being unreliable with my kid, then I woulnt put either of them in a position where something could go wrong. But, I trust Barney 100% with my kid....whether food is involve or not. An as a result My kid is allowed roun the dogs when they eat...she has been their feeder for about the last 2 years. she can pull anything out of their mouths...even a high value treat like a bone.

    PS: I have never had a RB x ????????? I am not sure what breed that is shorthan for? (brain fart)

    My d button seems to be a bit brokwn an it is driving me crazy
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    I shoul probably add here that no, I woulnt let just ANY dog like you think...

    It depens on the indiviual og. Not on the breed of the og, but on the temperament an personality of the dog.

    Its not like if we ha a highly aggressive og, I woul be like "off you go kid, give the og his inner" LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lala View Post
    No need to say sorry LOL. I posted that story specifically for the cringe factor.

    EDIT TO ADD: She wasnt allowed roun them with food when she was younger, her taking Barney's food that time was because I had turned my back and she had intervened despite knowing she wasnt meant to be there.

    When they first come home I do work alot with the ogs an food. I start with me putting hands in the bowl, or lifting a lip while they eat. And other stuff like that...my kid joined in eventually with supervision once she was a bit older (i,e. she did this with pippi) .I spend more time conitioning this that I do teaching my dogs to sit or stay.

    I would rather have my dogs conitioned to be OK if a kid walked up an grab their food, than never allow them to be in that situation and have no idea how they would react. Because despite all out best efforts, sometimes you end up in a situation you woul normally avoid (i.e. a ki grabbing the dogs food) and if the dog has never been in that situation then youve got no idea how that woul go....I have. Pippi would continue eating, Barney stops and waits LOL.

    At the end of the day, I agree that any dog can "snap" and I am always aware of what is going on with my guys and if they showed any signs of being unreliable with my kid, then I woulnt put either of them in a position where something could go wrong. But, I trust Barney 100% with my kid....whether food is involve or not. An as a result My kid is allowed roun the dogs when they eat...she has been their feeder for about the last 2 years. she can pull anything out of their mouths...even a high value treat like a bone.

    PS: I have never had a RB x ????????? I am not sure what breed that is shorthan for? (brain fart)

    My d button seems to be a bit brokwn an it is driving me crazy

    Glad I didn't offend, I didn't mean to, as I said it was just a good example.

    I also spend loads of time with my dogs hand feeding, picking up bowls, dropping food into their bowls, patting them when they eat just to condition them to that and to try and prevent any food guarding.

    TBH I am glad that I pulled you up on that story and got a follow up because now people who read this thread will not just think that any dog will have the reaction Barney had, they will know that you put in a lot of really hard work to get your dogs there.

    RB - Restricted Breed.

    LOL @ Your D button being broken. Now I know why you have ogs instead of dogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rid**** View Post
    What you have put here is good. But when you do have kids of your own you will more than likely rethink what you have put here.
    I know as a father and a grandfather now.
    Kids and grandkids do change the way you think about thing's like this.
    Maybe... but kids a very sheltered these days, I would understand outside their own back yard but a kids backyard is like their haven.. and I think their 4 legged buddy should be able to join them whilst hunting for dragons underneath rocks like common.. they need their pals to help em out.

    EDT: After reading other posts I think its also the age of the child... 4-5 year olds are kinda cluey when it comes to being comfortable with their family pet... An owner should know their dog and a parent should know what their child is like with the dog... if both have been observed as playing beautifully together I don’t understand why they couldn’t play unsupervised.
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    Kids do lead a way more sheltered life that I know I did as a kid.
    But times change and as parent we tend to go into over protection of our kids these days and I honestly think sometime it is a little over board.
    Like our daughter let the eldest grandie walk home oneday.
    I flew down her throat as it is not her I don't trust it is the sicko dopes out there thata can gather up a 6 year old in one hand and run off with her.
    And at home I will watch them with Murphy as he is way too boistours at this minute to leave them alone with him.
    He is a little brick S### house and so solid that he more than likely wouldn't even know if he has bumped them over.
    I have to wait till he has grown up and the littlest one is big enough to actually talk better before I would ever consider doing that.
    So if I am over protective then this is okay by me.

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    You do raise a valid point.. hmmmm its tricky

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    My sister was mauled by the neighbours dog some 30 yrs ago she was 7yrs old at the time....
    The dog was tied up, he was a german shepherd a big one......... I saw the whole thing and Im thinking if the dog wasnt tied up that he would have easily killed her.... her arms were ripped to shreds and she still has many scars from the attack....
    She went to pat the dog and he just FLIPPED.... went crazy... I have never seen anything so terrible like that in my life...

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    toni

    Really not enough info in your story for us to say anything except it makes the point that you can't expect kids to do the right thing around dogs. Or dogs to reliably do the right thing around kids.

    Sad that your sister got injured and glad she survived, even if a bit scarred. She can always say it was a shark attack. For some reason that sounds better.

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