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    Quote Originally Posted by clubsprint View Post
    Rediculous crap. Your Dog doesn't fit the definition. It's too short for starters. Panic Merchant?
    Actually CS considering uneducated people have called out Bull Terrier a "pitbull" many times (at least once a week we get asked or TOLD he is) nothing would surprise me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChoppaChop View Post
    Well as of tomorow innocent dogs can and will be labeled Pitbull ,seized and PTS. There will be avenues of some form of appeal process but its all a bit late after they've taken your dog.

    Without papers or a vet cert in your hand than your dog is at risk.
    Or a registration tag on their collar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mymatejack View Post
    Even worse is it really comes down to "do you have the pockets to fight a council in court?". The answer to that for the vast majority of people is NO. Maybe we need to look at finding a solicitor who loves dogs who would be willing to challenge this legislation - if we could find someone, there would be multiple ways to provoke a court case, just need someone who has the necessary knowledge and funding behind them to follow it through???
    Or you could just do the right thing and have your dog desexed,microchipped and registered.

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    As I have said before, I am just glad all of mine are black and fluffy............

    I feel for some of the people who now have to go through some of this sh....t. Having to prove your dog is not a Pittbull. Or if it is having to deal with all the problems now associated with that ownership.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruby mc nugget View Post
    I in deep shit My mum has not res nugget and im have been naging her for weeks to do it now nugget is doomed it look like im going to have go and hide her now sad it not my falt its my mums falt i have done every thing i have in mind and she said that if i say it a gen nugget gose im on fin ice here with my mum and i cant do any thing more about this. ITS FOR THE SACK OF NUGGET LIVE!
    Nugget doesn"t fit the breed standard (height/weight for starters) of any of the restricted breeds
    Is Nugget microchipped or desexed or has done obedience with a Government Approved organization? In that case your Registration fee for Nugget will be less than $30 Tell your mum that the fine for having an unregistered dog is $239. It's an easy choice as far as I can see. Your dog hasn't been declared a restricted breed yet so it's a bit soon to panic (as some helpful people on this list would have you believe) but I would still keep Nugget out of sight until you've registered him.

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    Ditto newfsie. Glad my dog looks nothing like a pitbull. But also to be living in the ACT. Small population, very low bite stats and no media beat-ups about certain dog breeds. So no BSL.

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    I was at the dog training Seminar there a few weeks ago and they did mention that so far no issues at all in ACT.......The person who held the Seminar was a little worried about her dogs though. They do not have any Pittbull in them at all as far as she knows, but two surely look like they have, They were all rescue dogs. She has no proof of any breed and the dogs are amazingly well trained dogs. She has been seeking legal advise and doing a lot of work with Rangers and such in Melbourne, where she is from.
    And she is not a panic merchant..it is just fact her dogs look like they look. And following the description fit right into the Pittbull- cross breeds.
    You only have to see how many mistakes are made in Rescue about what crosses dogs are. Crosses are so very hard to tell, even the pure-breds are in some breeds.
    Anything staffy cross large dog can fit into a Pittbull cross category by appearance. And there are thousands of them in all the Rescue Shelters across the country.
    And a lot of Rangers are not expert at recognizing dog breeds. I know I have been at Council event, with our Dog Obedience Team and so many Rangers have asked me what Breed my dogs are. If they do not know the basic pure breeds, what hope have cross breeds and/or pure breeds that are of a certain appearance have, that are not as easy to tell apart. I have a lot of experience with dogs, but I am often surprised when owners tell me what their dogs is.........It is difficult. And a lot of vets are not much better. And I do not see them giving out certificates easily for proof of Breed. As if the dog in the future shows any aggression, it will be back the haunt them (in Court).

    http://news.vin.com/VINNews.aspx?articleId=19920

    And a quote taken from the attached article

    "When it comes to breed-specific legislation, many veterinarians are staunch critics. The American Veterinary Medical Association opposes laws targeting pit bulls and other breeds on grounds that dangerous dogs are a product of irresponsible owners, and casting a blanket policy encompassing a breed is excessive.

    Confusion also stems from the fact that by itself, the pit bull does not constitute a breed. Rather, it is a general term that covers dogs with similar traits and characteristics such as American Staffordshire terriers, Staffordshire bull terriers and American bulldogs.

    “There are more than 10 other breeds that may be confused visually with a pit bull or a pit bull cross,” Carser, of the VDA, wrote in an email to the VIN News Service."
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    Well if a bit of panic keeps dogs safe..... then panic much.

    Seriously now , do you honestly believe a council ranger will leave a dog alone because of 'height' ? Especially if said dog happens to match 3 or 4 of the other points ( something several breed of dog sadly can) ?

    If so then Clubsprint you are absolutely delusional.
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    You're right re the vets handing out passes Newf , the AVA advised their vets strongly against doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clubsprint View Post
    Or you could just do the right thing and have your dog desexed,microchipped and registered.
    My dog is desexed, microchipped and registered. That doesnt mean squat with these new laws. If some council ranger decides my dog is a restricted breed, he will at best be condemned to living in a cage, only walked on lead and muzzled in public. How is that fair for a dog that has spent the last 6 years being an angel, loving his family, loving everyone he comes in contact with.

    Also, if you actually read the new laws, the way they are written, if the council decides your dog is a restricted breed, then ONLY way you can dispute it is by proving your dog in an amstaff. The way i read the law, it doens't matter if your dog is a papered pure bred SBT, any dog that fits the standard and is not proven to be amstaff is automatically an american pitbull. Go back and re-read the legislation with this point in mind!

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