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    Quote Originally Posted by Beloz View Post
    My stepdad had GSDs that he used for security work. They both had to do rigorous training before he was allowed to take him to work with him. And the dog was very well socialised (part of our family and an inside dog) and never threatened anyone apart from in those controlled conditions at work.

    He did only have to use his guard dog skills once or twice and both times the thief that got caught barely had a mark on him.

    And I loved taking the dog for walks when I was a teenager! I could walk around after dark in a mini-skirt and I knew I did not have to worry about being harrassed at all with this dog by my side.
    If a dog and its handler know what they are doing then there is a less likely chance of something going wrong. Thats why i believe in the training as something new comes up every week and me and my 2 GSDs learn something every time we go. Believe it or not they can even do their job even when wearing a muzzle, they know how to do it, i just feel its just not fair on the dog to be muzzled all the time, it makes them look scarier and thats never a good thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeDG View Post
    dogs trained in personal protecton are perfectly cabable of being out and about at an off leash park and out on walks as much as your "average" dog and have just as much right. its a legal way of protecting yourself from would be attackers seeing as concealed weapons and mace are illegal to civillians. an alarm would do me no good if i forget to change the batteries .
    You're kidding right? What makes you think it is OK to bring attack trained dogs to an off leash park and mix with my kids/dogs? Did you ask my permission before you expose my family to this danger.?

    Quote Originally Posted by LukeDG View Post
    as long as the owners have signs up saying the have a trained dog then you have a decent chance of not doing any jail time etc.
    Ya think so? How about an admission of guilt

    Quote Originally Posted by LukeDG View Post
    trained for aggression? as in for fighting dogs? dogs are used as a viable and LEGAL tool for personal protection, would you class that as trained in or for aggression?
    Yep. You betcha.

    Quote Originally Posted by LukeDG View Post
    because i am not paranoid, everybody fears something, incase you didnt read a post earlier, i have actually recieved threats against my life, again showing the threat is real and not just in my head. plus counselling is too damn expensive these days....yes its sarcastic
    Oh Puhleazze! Councelling is too expensive? You might forget the batteries in your personal alarm. Yet an attack trained German Shepard is affordable? You have every reason in the world why you should be allowed a dangerous dog and every reason why you aren't/shouldn't be responsible.

    Quote Originally Posted by LukeDG View Post
    they wouldnt, its not hard to train them to do it. they have been tested many times. well then, no offence to girl but she seems just as crazy as him
    Food refusal? Anyone worth their salt knows this is one of the most difficult things to train for. ppfffftt. I wouldn't want a self deluded idiot in control of attack trained dogs living anywhere near where I live.
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    You're kidding right? What makes you think it is OK to bring attack trained dogs to an off leash park and mix with my kids/dogs? Did you ask my permission before you expose my family to this danger.? I don't need your permission to take my very well socialised animals to an off leash park, they don't go near people unless i go first or give them the go ahead. As i said before they are not attack trained, every dog attacks, these are trained in defense.

    Oh Puhleazze! Councelling is too expensive? You might forget the batteries in your personal alarm. Yet an attack traied German Shepard is affordable? You have every reason in the world why you sould be allowed a dangerous dog and every reason why you aren't/shouldn't be responsible. Again not attack trained, at least i know my dog alarm is always on at night and i dont have to worry about the power being disconnected so the alarm doesn't go off. Uneducated opinions about how responsible i am will be ignored as they are complete rubbish, if you had read previous posts you would know that i undergo continous training with my dogs and they are regulary assessed.

    Food refusal? Anyone worth their salt knows this is one of the most difficult things to train for. ppfffftt. I'm so glad you live n Queensland because I wouldn't want a self deluded idiot in control of attack trained dogs living anywhere near me. Its easy to train if you have somebody like my mentor helping me, we had it down pat in 3 weeks, not really a long time considering how valuable it is. As for living in a seperate state, i am glad i dont live in the same state as somebody who obviously has something against big dogs, who tries to scare monger people by saying that they are all killers . As for the deluded idiot part, i prefer to be called crazy....rolls of the tongue better

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    Don't let them wind you up, Luke. It's pretty futile even responding at all to that. I am finding the Ignore list a blessing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beloz View Post
    Don't let them wind you up, Luke. It's pretty futile even responding at all to that. I am finding the Ignore list a blessing.
    in this case i am fishing for a bite as much as he or she is

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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeDG View Post
    You're kidding right? What makes you think it is OK to bring attack trained dogs to an off leash park and mix with my kids/dogs? Did you ask my permission before you expose my family to this danger.?
    Why don't you do the people whose families lives you are playing with the courtesy of telling them about you defense trained dogs and see if they think you are within your right's?

    Quote Originally Posted by LukeDG View Post
    I don't need your permission
    Actually your wrong there read the bylaws. What Park is it?
    Typical belligerent attitude of an irresponsible dog owner. Well if the worst happens his attitude is well documented. for the civil lawsuit. So fixed in his beliefs that he is wiling to risk others families to prove it.
    Tell me, how do they defend?
    I can't believe I'm a voice in the wilderness. What's wrong with you people?

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    I'm with you on this one Clubsprint. So is Peter I believe.

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    just curious as to whether any of you have ever met an attack / guard TRAINED dog? not just your neighbours backyard dog who looks scary?

    these dogs are only allowed to be trained in attack after rigorous obedience training, temperament testing etc etc.

    these dogs are highly socialised, highly responsive and highly intelligent. you haven't met a well trained dog until you have met one of these.

    but in saying that i hate the idea of using a dog as a weapon. they love as us so much that they WOULD die for us, but i personally could not allow my dog to be put in the way of danger to save me, it would break my heart.

    on the original topic i think it is great that you should be punished for what your dog does. if you know your dog can be aggressive than you take steps to ensure it can never get out and hurt someone. If you don't believe you can do that and the dog is a danger to the people around it then you have to consider putting it to sleep.

    no if's or buts. you may have a responsibility to your dog and to society to make sure that your dog is in no way a nuisance and that he or she is well behaved and well socialised, if you didn't then you deserve what you get

    (of course there are always accidents and things that can not be prepared for but you take every precaution you can and there shouldnt be a problem)
    "In order to really enjoy a dog, one doesn't merely try to train him to be semihuman. The point of it is to open oneself to the possibility of becoming partly a dog." - Edward Hoagland

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaz Tarja View Post
    just curious as to whether any of you have ever met an attack / guard TRAINED dog? not just your neighbours backyard dog who looks scary?

    these dogs are only allowed to be trained in attack after rigorous obedience training, temperament testing etc etc.

    these dogs are highly socialised, highly responsive and highly intelligent. you haven't met a well trained dog until you have met one of these.

    but in saying that i hate the idea of using a dog as a weapon. they love as us so much that they WOULD die for us, but i personally could not allow my dog to be put in the way of danger to save me, it would break my heart.
    i would die for my dogs too, i love them as a pet. They aren't a waepon, to me they are a pet that happens to be all of the above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clubsprint View Post
    Why don't you do the people whose families lives you are playing with the courtesy of telling them about you defense trained dogs and see if they think you are within your right's?


    Actually your wrong there read the bylaws. What Park is it?
    Typical belligerent attitude of an irresponsible dog owner. Well if the worst happens his attitude is well documented. for the civil lawsuit. So fixed in his beliefs that he is wiling to risk others families to prove it.
    Tell me, how do they defend?
    I can't believe I'm a voice in the wilderness. What's wrong with you people?
    I didnt say that i haven't/don't tell the people at my local dog park, 99% of them a regular visitors to it and know the standard to which they are trained and tested, as well as socialised with dogs and people. Why would i let you knw what park i go to? you could go down there and make a scene for all i know. Do you research on how theses dogs defend and then tell me what you found. Obviously when push comes to shove they will bite, but to be honest 2 GSDs barking at you is enough to make you think twice and probably realise you should leave me and my dogs alone, if you had any bad ideas of course, if you want to be friendly they'll be friendly, simple as that. Its a 2 way street. (and before you go on about you cant be 100% sure they'll be friendly, yes i know but as i know and you do too, every dog has its days.)

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